John RUIZ vs Andy RUIZ: All Latino HW Championship Fight Who wins?

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John vs Andy

  1. John KO

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  2. John UD

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    25.0%

  3. Andy KO

    2 vote(s)
    50.0%

  4. Andy UD

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  5. Draw

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  1. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have to make this thread. Ya'll knew this was coming. Both are the first man to win the title for their race: John for PR and Andy for Mexico (Though I think both are born in the US). Both have the same last name.

    Quick Breakdown of John Ruiz for the younger boxing fans:

    John Ruiz won his WBA title from a faded ATG Holyfield. He went 1-1-1 in the series. He famously lost the WBA title to a another ATG Roy Jones. John won the title again from Hasimm Rahman and had defences against Fres (Oquendo (TKO), Golota (UD) and James Toney (NC Toney won but failed a drug test). He lost the title to Sugar Nikolay Valuev. All in all He retired with a record of 44-9-1 (30 KO).

    John had a boring grab and jab style during his title days but he did have KO power in his right hand. He had a solid chin (Tua caught he really good and was past his prime vs Haye).

    Andy Ruiz has fast hands and average power (AJ was/is chinny).

    So who wins the Battle of the Ruizs?
     
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  2. BCS8

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    I suspect that John's boring jab n grab will shut down Andy's better and faster skills and he wins on points. Given a ref that doesn't stand for that nonsense, Andy wins comfortably.
     
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  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    John was slow as molasses man.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah that's how I see it. JR's style is to get off first and smother the counter while AR's style is the press forward and counter what comes at him, so from a style perspective it favours JR. That is of course if JR has a ref who allows him to clinch. Get a ref that takes away his clinching and Andy probably wins.
     
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  5. BCS8

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    Yeah I don't rate JR much. But he seemed to get favourable scoring a la Canelo quite a bit. You'd probably have to factor that in.
     
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