John "The Beast" Mugabi would be a champion in MULTIPLE divisions in todays Era

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  1. FlyingFrenchman

    FlyingFrenchman Active Member Full Member

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    John "The Beast" Mugabi got overrated because he did better than expected vs. Hagler. Prior to Hagler he was 25-0 (25) but did not fight many top fighters. He stopped Frank "The Animal" Fletcher in the 4th round, James Green in the 10th round, and Curtis Parker in the 1st round.

    He gave Hagler a tough fight but was stopped in the 11th round. Hagler was up by 3 point on 2 of the cards after 10 rounds.

    His best weight was 154 Lbs. but he did fight at MW a good bit. He beat Rene Jacquot (KO1) for the WBC JMW world title but soon lost it to Tery Norris by 1st round KO. It was all down hill after that.

    Now, tell me again how he would dominate in this weak modern world of boxing.
     
  2. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you saying that all today's fighters are better than 30 years ago, then? Golovkin is better than Hagler and Bradley is better than Duran?

    I don't see any improvement, unless Khan and Maidana are an indication of some kind of evolution in the sport.
     
  3. jas

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    how can you compare fighters who are not even on the p4p list today to hagler and duran? :huh :patsch

    here is clint jackson's record. he was ranked number 10 at welter in 1980 just as amir khan is today.

    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=028890&cat=boxer

    who wins? clint jackson or manny pacquaio?
     
  4. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the same Mugabi that didn't beat one fighter worth a damn???

    the same Mugabi that had power and barley any skill to speak of???

    that Mugabi???

    don't let me interrupt your daily sessions of mass delusion. you lot get angry when that happens.
     
  5. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gets knocked out cold by GGG.
    Chin ???
    Has power but not enough skill.
     
  6. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you can't beat that c level loser terry Norris then you ain't worth ****
     
  7. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd turned pro 18 years ago still on top, Hopkins turned pro 1988 still top 5 in division, JMM in 1993 still top 5 in division, Foreman won HW belt 20 years after he lost it first time, argument new is automatically better is bull****...
    I understand point that fighters from 1900s 1920s etc but from about 1960s and up you can absolutely compare them to todays, for example Thomas Hearns would beat anyone fighting today 140 147, SRR would have a chance against anyone in his weigh class, Ali would absolutely toy with any HW fighter today not named Wlad(not favoring Wlad vs Ali but not easy fight, other HW fighters EASY WORK for Ali)
    p4p #1 is old school pretty much in everything he does, how come new guys dont beat him even outweighing him a lot. :huh
     
  8. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The guy was saying that the fighters of today are automatically better because of some sort of evolution in skills. I would argue that a great fighter is a great fighter in any era.

    Pac and Mayweather compare with the best but Amir Khan wouldn't have lasted in previous eras. There are many different titles to go for and much more dodging of opponents now.

    As another contributor said, no way are boxers better than guys from earlier times. Napoles, Cervantes and Tiger would all dominate now.

    As for Mugabi, I think he was great against Hagler, but the fight took a lot of steam out of him. He would win titles now, but I don't think he would be champ long term.
     
  9. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know , Mugabi is a way different calibur of animal compared to a Bika or Greene .
     
  10. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How have boxers progressed exactly? are they punching faster, hitting harder, better chins etc?
     
  11. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO ONE in todays era would have punished Hagler like Mugabi did .

    NO ONE in todays era would even come close to the success that Mugabi had in that fight .

    Both fighters got beaten up in that fight

    The Beast had a unorthodox style, relentless and had brutal punching power in his hands .

    If Your'e implying hes a bum , Guess what ?

    Then Basically every fighter today would get slaughtered by this bum .
     
  12. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    but but but boxing has progressed :nut
     
  13. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The same Mugabi that was Ko'ed in a round by Norris.

    He would be a force a 154, but not 168. Those guys come in the ring weighting 180 plus. He is too small.
     
  14. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler is overrated. He shouldn't of been hit by such a wild puncher.

    Martinez would box the ears off Mugabi.
     
  15. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mugabe as pretty washed up by the time he fought Norris and Norris was no bum either