John "The Quiet Man"" Ruiz:A Hall of Famer?

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  1. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    What are your thoughts on John Ruiz? Do you think IF HE WOULD RETIRE TODAY THAT he is a hall of famer?

    One could make a case for his vote into the hall someday.

    Let's see his statistics and highlights.

    Record: 44-8-1, 1 NC, 30KOs .815 winning pct....68% KO pct
    Two-time WBA World Heavyweight Champion...Made 7 title defenses in 2 reigns
    First Latin American fighter to win a piece of the heavy crown
    11 of his 30 KO victims were made in the first round
    Stopped once in 54 fights (LKO1 David Tua)
    Beat 3 out 6 world champions he faced: Record vs world champs is 3-4-1, 1 NC, 1KO
    Beat 1 out of 3 Hall of Famers: Record vs HOFs is 1-2-1, 1NC, 0KOs
    Was also WBC International, NABA, and NABF Heavyweight Champion

    Defining Fight: W12 Evander Holyfield (II)...March 3, 2001..."First Latino ever to win a piece of the Heavy crown"

    Other defining moments:
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    , and WTKO11 Fres Oquendo

    What do you think of him?
     
    David B, Jan 2, 2010
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  2. lobk

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    A HOF doesn't lose his belt to a light heavy weight .
     
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  3. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    He'll get in the hall of fame for his ethnicity. That is it.
    Maybe for being the most gentle boxer too, I have never seen a boxer be so liberal with prolonged hugs.
    His opponents must love him.
     
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  5. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    People who achieved less than Ruiz has have got in, but I doubt it.

    If he beats Haye he should get in though.
     
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  6. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** no
     
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  7. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  8. alex-boxer42

    alex-boxer42 Active Member Full Member

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    end of thread ladies.
     
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  9. thesandman51

    thesandman51 teh secks Full Member

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    I'm not sure if losing to 2 blown up middleweights qualifies you to get into the HOF as a heavyweight. I think that might actually hurt your chances.
     
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  10. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

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    Based on his record and the above, yes. His style creates a bad taste for the fan. I would not watch him fight unless it was against David Haye or someone who has knockout power.
     
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  11. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If it was up to me, NO. But the fact he was the first latino could EASILY put him there. Plus, I have to admit, he style is ugly as hell but he gave a lot of fighters a hard night
     
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  12. MonsterX

    MonsterX Active Member Full Member

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    The quite man should shut up
     
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  13. cubex

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    I wish he was never born.
     
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  14. alex-boxer42

    alex-boxer42 Active Member Full Member

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    If there were a hall of INfame, yes. :patsch
     
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  15. prideofvbeach

    prideofvbeach Top 10 Pound-For-Pound Full Member

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    The Quiet Man,...that has got to be some kind of ironic name for one of the biggest whinners in the HW division. No way to the Hall of Fame. That man doesn't deserve it. You put him in there, than you got to let everyone who ever held one of the belts in. Damani, Morrison, Maskaev, Rahman...that would be sad if they let him in. I mean, damn, the man lost to Toney, who high on Maui Wowie at the time.
     
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