Johnny Famechon vs Azhumha Nelson/Howard Winstone

Famechon vs Winstone would be a sweet science fan's dream. Famechon was more of a cutie while Winstone was more of the up-right technician. Both had great jabs, Winstone holding the advantage in that regard, with Famechon holding the edge in the defensive categories, such as head movement, footwork, etc. Both were pretty underrated in-fighters, but I'd give Famechon the slight edge there because of his better two-fisted attack. Winstone liked to rely on the left hand from pretty much any distance, though he could throw the right. I think Winstone's better jab may end up holding it for him in the end, though. Very close call and one I've thought of making a thread on in the past. I'd like to see a few other poster's opinions on this one as well.

As for Nelson, I'd favor him over both actually. The relentless pressure he was capable of applying (particularly in his early days at Feather, such as against Sanchez) was bad news for all but the very best pure boxers. I see both Famechon and Winstone faring very well early, but I also see Nelson catching up to them by the mid rounds and having his way in the late ones, much the way Saldivar was able to do with Winstone. I think Famechon's defensive slipperiness could see him faring a tad better than Winstone though. A decision win either way wouldn't surprise me in that one.

 

Mostly agree with Sweet pea, though i tend to think i would flip his take on Winstone and Fammo....i think Johnny was more of the outright standup boxer where Winstone had more of a generic barney ross\joey archer sort of textbook approach.still, both are very similar fighters.Unflashy, but extrmely precise and techncally excellent.


I could go either way with Nelson.The fast paced pressuring style he could adopt is certainly much better suited to taking on more traditional stylists like Famechon and Sanchez, than the fighters who are more at the defensive specialist end of the pure-boxing spectrum.His strength and power are truly formidable, but he's also nowhere near as precise while using it as someone like Saldivar.

I could see him being dragged around the ring too much by Famechon and stuck on the end of his long straight shots and quick hooks off the jab for long stretches.Famechon won't be in range always looking to counter like sanchez was, giving Nelson the lots of chances to fire back.He likes to use the perimeter of the ring a lot more, staying further outside and would be happy to pile up points behind the jab.

Even though it was at 130, Nelson did labour a fair bit before tracking down McDonell, who was a second-tier fighter with a similar textbook approach.I'd Certainly favour Famechon over 12 and give him the edge over 15 with Nelson closing the gap late on.

Winstone would find it tougher because he stays closer to his opponent, moving in tighter circles and has much more of a boxer-puncher mentality than Johnny, which considering his lack of any real power is a weakness imo.He's not as disciplined as Famechon.I could see him getting into more protracted exchanges and while he may land more shots during them, he'll get hurt by Nelson's far heavier punches.Overall i think it could go either way, maybe depending on how much Nelson has managed to hurt Winstone going into the last five rounds.He's probably got more chance of scoring a few knockdowns or a clean KO than Saldivar did, but is unlikely to have invested in the body or landed as many straight shots.I can see Nelson's unorthodox punching angles and looping shots working well for him here.

This is assuming he fights in that kind of style against them.If he fights in the slower-paced boxerpuncher mode he more often did and it becomes more of a chessmatch and matter of punchpicking at ring-centre he'll get beat by both of them IMO.

 

I think both Famechon's and Winstone's lack of power will be bad news in their hopes for beating Nelson.

We saw how Nelson had no respect for Whitaker's power and was able to do some pretty good pressing down the stretch and get to Whitaker, even though Pernell was in the end too masterful on the defensive end.

Nelson could show some laziness, like he did in the first half of the Pea bout and much of the McDonnell bout, but if he is focused he will end up getting to both Winstone and Famechon imo. Famechon will fair better because of his greater lateral movement and ability to fight excellently in a clinch, but I think his offensive output on the whole will be too sparse against Nelson and his tendency to lose his footing will probably make the difference in the end if gets down to it. Against Howard, Nelson will get his ears boxed off early, but Nelson will eventually start nailing him and will probably beat him up fairly badly down the stretch, taking a clear decision.

Famechon vs. Winstone could go either way. As has been mentioned, Winstone has the better offensive repertoire, especially at long and mid range, whilst Famechon has edges with regards to stamina and in fighting.

Will probably come down to how willing Famechon is to turn it into a scrap. If he tries to outbox Winstone he will lose round after round and probably only start getting something done in the last third of the fight. If he is more proactive in getting on the inside and doing some good body work early he might sweep enough rounds late to take a decision. I'll go for Johnny in a close one because of my Melbourne bias, but realistically this is a 50/50 match imo.

 

i thought Pea was just moving and not letting him getting set for punches in that fight you saw his determination to throw the shoits but theyr wasnt nothing to throw at