Johnny Fisher v David Allen

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  1. boxberry92

    boxberry92 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Dave Allen has had almost as many lives as Chisora in terms of high-profile chances he's been offered in terms of both building and resurrecting his career.

    Unfortunately, he showed exactly who he was in the first Lenroy Thomas fight, and against Fisher I fully expect him to fold within a couple of rounds.

    If he somehow pulls off the upset, it will be the greatest resurrection since Christ and will provide the perfect backdrop for Fast Car to set up Joshua's next run at a title shot.
     
  2. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bosh mega Chinese or whatever he is is no good, and I'd expect Allen to stun him at some stage too, but I think once Allen's been in there for 3 or more rounds, he'll retire on his stool.

    It's like the current gimmick v the former gimmick.
     
  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Now that's not true in the slightest

    You really are overreacting over this Saudi stuff

    If Boxing was dead here then why did AJ vs Dubois have close to 90 thousand people attend?
     
  4. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    More like 70,000.

    The undercard was nothing like what he is putting on in Riyadh.

    Do you not understand he only did that to appease the public?
     
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Aha yes 70 thousand

    That number makes it dead and buried


    Please the public? What the boxing public that don't exist in your eyes?


    Mate have a day off, yes it's dodgy money and we know there's ulterior motives somewhere here but go ahead and explain to me how much better British boxing would be if this stuff hadn't occurred?
     
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  6. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not a difficult concept to understand. These fights would all be in stadiums in the UK. Instead they are part of a sports washing program in Saudi Arabia.
     
  7. GarethUmmDavies

    GarethUmmDavies Member Full Member

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    Where are you getting 70,000?

    "Brent Borough Council has confirmed to Mail Sport 85,466 came through the turnstiles. It's important to note that this only accounts for the turnstile figures and neglects those who attended in a VIP seat or a box."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/b...imed-highest-attended-Wembley-event-ever.html

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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Stadiums? But isn't boxing dead in the UK?

    Fisher vs Allen would be at the Copperbox


    And I'm sure your aware of a certain Irish man that was previously using boxing as a front, most likely for reasons you claim the Saudi's are?

    Your become a walking contradiction, just stop it now
     
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  9. GarethUmmDavies

    GarethUmmDavies Member Full Member

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    Not sure it's "previously" with you know who. There's Goldstar, Spencer Braaaan, and so on. These "men of god" in the Middle East seem to have no problem with (...allegedly) partnering with that nice little Irish fella.
     
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  10. ash234

    ash234 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The former heavyweight gimmick vs the current heavyweight gimmick.
     
  11. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not talking about Fisher v Allen. Why do you think Fisher v Allen would fill a stadium? I doubt it would even be in the copperbox it's not a venue that Eddie uses much, also what has Daniel Kinahan got to do with anything? Dirty money has always funnelled through boxing so I'm not sure what your point is. Stop being so credulous and try to see the bigger picture.

    Anyway going to leave it here for this discussion. Hope you enjoy the boxing.


    That was a guestimate from the swathes of empty seats visible in the upper sections. Good to know that boxing is still in demand in the UK it's just a shame we have no big live shows coming up for people to attend!
     
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  12. GarethUmmDavies

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    I can't speak for the other member, but my stance is that sportswashing occurs throughout the world and in the UK. It's not a novel concept pertaining to Saudi, although the British consumer has been brainwashed into thinking that this is the case or that it's the only case worthy of admonishment. The standard British sports consumer is inconsistent in their moral alignment in so many ways.
     
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  13. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is true but the connection between sports, corruption and the Middle East is pretty clear. Despite FIFA having multiple campaigns promoting equality, diversity and inclusion they still awarded a world cup to a country with an abhorrent human rights record. Then they did it again by awarding it to Saudi Arabia in 2030. Theses are the attendances for the Saudi pro league. One of the clubs averages 600 supporters per game. Something doesn't add up.
     
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  14. GarethUmmDavies

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    I see this "human rights record" thing thrown around regularly, but we ought to look at it on a deeper philosophical level. The average Joe's conceptualisation of what human rights constitutes is far too narrow and is informed only by the media and pub talk. Then there's the fallacy of relative privation in that if one nation's human rights is worse than the other, then that relinquishes the need to blame another nation whose record isn't perceived to be as bad. I think Brits ought to be bothered more about the atrocities that are happening on their doorstep. The country is in a dire state and has been for some time.
     
  15. ash234

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    Fck Saudi. Horrible nation.

    ‘Turki’ has been pictured with many a Saudi murderer including one who was the main culprit involved in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.

    It’s not his money he’s spending, he’s just a front for the sportwashing Saudi government. Knocks me sick when you see clowns like Nick Peet calling him ‘Uncle Turki’ like he’s doing it out of the goodness of his heart.
     
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