Johnny Nelson says burns result is ruining boxing

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Mike Hunt, Sep 11, 2013.


  1. ISPEAKUMTROOTH

    ISPEAKUMTROOTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly the same here fella.Point 3 has to be re-iterated,as Billy goes off the rails with anyone who questions Rickys abilities so he has to take the flak with interest when it goes wrong for him.I cant blame anyone for have a wee gloat at his expense after some of the shite he has dished oot.
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No offence, but just reading the first issue of The Ring (1922) and you saw the issue of alphabet crap becoming a problem for the sport. But you know what? It is over 90 years later and the sport is still going.

    I too used to get on my high horse about alphabet crap. But now I just laugh. The jokers who run these organizations are not worth getting angry about. The casual fan now knows alphabet crap means nothing, and now that, that has been established, alphabet organizations are a very minor issue.

    If that makes me deluded or cretinous, so be it...
     
  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins, Wlad and Lil Floyd did at least throw punches. Nelson/Deleon was arguably the worst 'title' fight in history; the argument being Nelson/Warring may of been worse!

    And as one them suckers who witnessed Nelson/Akinwande in person, I think I have very good argument.

    Nelson when focused can add quite bit to the SKY team. But trying the populous card, is kind of 23 years too late. Nelson is coming across as cliché and blasé; we got you for that on this subject!;)
     
  4. Jon Saxon

    Jon Saxon Active Member Full Member

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    "deluded or cretinous" was in relation to the Burns fight bro.

    As for wbc, ba, bo. this coupled with a lack of mainstream coverage (mainly due to all the crap titles) are the reason boxing is not mainstream.
    No one knows who the champ is anymore, back in the day everyone did.

    If boxing took itself more serioulsy then so would the media at large.
    Boxing would


    Back on point I'm gutted for Beltran and am ashamed it happened in my country.
     
  5. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Spot on.

    He spent months telling us how great Ricky was and the reality is that he was found out.

    The fact he then blamed it on the broken jaw is incredible.
     
  6. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no matter what you call a belt if it is popular enough it will be mainstream....all theses x factor/big brother/strictly/talent whatever etc etc etc etc ...i could not tell one from another but could not be more mainstream
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You reckon? Granted it was a lot easier than today, but if you look back, since 1882 there was only a very short period (in the late 1940s) where there was 'only' one World Champion, in 'only' the classic eight divisions.

    That is a very long path though. For starters how do you define 'serious'? If your answer includes purses for fighters, well Saturday night may very well be the richest night not just in Boxing history, but the history of sports...


    Beltran was sadly a pawn in a bigger story. I think he will get a decent pay day out of this, one way or the other. So as this is boxing, he is probably going to do alright in the long term.
     

  8. Say what you want about Nelson the boxer, he's a commentator now and he's the only one who had the balls to speak the truth live on air the other night.

    We all know he stunk the place out when he was a pro, that has got absolutely fvck all to do with this subject.

    He spoke the truth, good on him I say.
     
  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But he only spoke one aspect of the 'truth'. A 'truth' we all saw; a commentator is meant to add something to the pictures we see, not state the obvious.

    Beltran should of won... Well duh, I did not need a commentator to tell me that! What Nelson is paid to do, is suggest why Burns won. Of course that probably means not citing SKY in his opinion, but he can still point out other factors and indirectly have a dig at his paymasters.

    You can get away with stating the obvious, you are not paid to give a professional critique, Johnny is...
     

  10. What is it with people on here, they just love to chat shite. hahaha

    There was 4 people commentating and discussing the judging in the studio after the fight, Nelson was the only one who spoke the truth.

    End of.
     
  11. mgmark7

    mgmark7 Active Member Full Member

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    Oh dear you keep shouting about the fight being fixed. Still you don't want to actually do anything with your allegations.

    I see some people suspect you of being another poster named Craney.

    Are you paid by this site to create traffic? I know some sites do that to help improve their ratings in order to sell advertising space.

    I must say I am impressed that you can manage to have various identities and debate with yourself to keep interest up.
     
  12. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What is the 'truth' you write of? We knew the result was wrong, there was no need to mention that. What Nelson is paid to do, is using his experiences and know how give an explanation as to why Burns was awarded the fight...
     
  13. mgmark7

    mgmark7 Active Member Full Member

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    That is a very good point.
     
  14. mgmark7

    mgmark7 Active Member Full Member

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    I think your point number 3 is more about the nature of the comments directed at Billy Nelson rather than the issue of the obvious robbery.

    Rocky has used the outcome to have a go at Billy and Scottish people. I find him entertaining in the same way it's entertaining examining belly button fluff.

    The scoring needs explaining at the very least. Personally I think if someone is angry and upset by this decision they should get in touch with the board of control and the WBO. It takes as much time to send them an email as it does to type a post. Raising the issue through the media as well would help towards stopping this from happening in the future. Look what happened in cricket when fans suspicions of corruption were picked up by the media.