Johnny Nelson thinks he would have beaten Usyk

Loudon · Aug 16, 2022

exocet76 said: ↑

Exactly..Haye's mouth has always made promises he couldn't keep in reality.
I think Usyk would beat Haye and Nelson at the same time...possibly.
Haye was quick and had decent power but he gassed a lot in fights. I remember the Chisora fight he was getting desperate and blowing hard my suspicion at the time was if Derek had lasted another round Haye was in deep trouble.
As for Nelson he was awkward but pretty dull. I remember trying to watch a couple of his fights and I actually fell asleep on both occasions and it wasn't even late..
Usyk is just too skilled for those two the only one that's more a coin toss at Cruiser would be Holyfield. That would be a cracking scrap against the probably the two best to do it in that division.
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I used to watch Johnny’s fights.

I always cheered for him, but in some of them, it looked like he was fencing.

Loudon · Aug 16, 2022

lordlosh said: ↑

He went 24 rounds with Lewis, and probably lost 20 of them. He was gifted a draw he didn't deserve.
I can said the same for second Bowe fight, where he was outlanded by a good 100+ punches.
Holyfield was a great boxer, but a dirty baster that was getting away with a lot. And saying that last time i check Bowe TKO him in the 3rd final fight, that said it all.

Tyson was great win, but if Holy was past it at 34, then Usyk is also past it, at 35 ...

Boxing is not i did good against this or that guy, than i surely will beat that guy. Ain't working that way, and that just speak about your knowledge.

It's also funny that you are trying hard by giving Usyk somehow of a "bad" performance, and not where he is on his best.

Bellew won 2 or 3 rounds, because of Usyk strategy. And Usyk was never in trouble in that fight.
For Chisora Usyk was after a long layout, and had bad camp + was dealing with injuries and had a hand surgery(his words).
Still he was never in trouble and won the fight cleanly, even with all of Chisora dirty tactics, hitting bellow the belt and tons of shot in the back of the head, that would have result in DQ if the fight was ruled fairly.

And yeah Usyk was in enemy territory.

Holyfield would get schooled, he ain't no match for Usyk, who is clearly superior in absolutely everything.
Not to mention that Holyfield was juiced to the gills big big big big time.
Still Usyk is used to beat steroids cheats like him, AJ is a good example, who is als juiced to the gills.
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Usyk is a genius in the ring. But he hasn’t done anything to suggest that he’d have schooled Evander Holyfield.

Saying that Evander would have been no match for him is just silly.

That opinion isn’t based on anything logical.

PH1882 · Aug 16, 2022

I struggling to remember anything about Johnny Nelson's boxing career but I suppose it's in his make up to back himself.

Cobra33 · Aug 16, 2022

Nelson had the build and style to actually best Usky which sounds crazy to say but it is indeed true.
If he can implement it is a whole other story.

Serge · Aug 16, 2022

P4P#2 in just 19 fights (was #1 for short while)
Unified the CW division in just 15 fights
Three belt unified HW king in just 19 fights

Olympic gold medalist
World Amateur Championships gold & bronze
European gold & bronze medalist

Won all those gold medals on the road

He was robbed in the 2008 Olympics against the eventual semi-finalist that year

WBC CW champion
WBA CW champion
IBF CW champion
WBO CW champion
WBA HW champion
IBF HW champion
WBO HW champion

Unified the CW division in just 15 fights

Is the three belt unified HW king in just 19 fights

Won, defended, and unified all his world titles as a pro in his opponent's backyards sans his first defence which was on neutral soil

Ring Magazine champion at CW
Ranked #2 P4P by The Ring Magazine
Winner of the Muhammad Ali trophy

Beat

WBA, IBF and WBO champ AJ (24-1) in England
WBA and IBF champ Gassiev (26-0) in Russia
Beat WBC champ Briedis (23-0) in Latvia
Beat WBO champ Glowacki (26-0) in Poland
Beat former long reigning WBO champ Huck (40-4-1) in Germany
Beat former WBC champ Bellew (30-2-1) in England
Beat Michael Hunter (12-0) in the US
Beat Mchunu (17-2) on neutral soil
Beat Chisora (32-9) in England

Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (2018)
ESPN Fighter of the Year (2018)
Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year (2018)
CBS Fighter of the Year (2018)
Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year (2018)
Boxing News Fighter of the Year (2018)

P4P#1 funniest boxer on the planet

P4P#1 most charismatic despite barely being able to speak English

P4P#1 most humble

P4P#1 most fearless

P4P#1 road warrior

Highly athletic, highly skilled, very fleet of hand and foot, high ring IQ, great footwork and punch variety, extremely smooth and fluid in his movement for a big man and just a supremely talented boxer with beautiful skills.

He's also very humble and has an immensely likeable personality, is an absolute gent and a scholar both in and out of the ring, bags of charisma, and he is an utterly fearless road warrior who relies on clean boxing to win fights and zero deck-stacking and dice loading and on top of all that he's as funny as hell. No catchweights, judges in his pocket, rehydration clauses, PEDs. No stacked deck at all.

Johnny Nelson: ''Usyk is an average southpaw''

This is the kind of moron we're dealing with. Extremely disrespectful from Nelson and why exactly? What the **** has Usyk ever done as a person or a fighter to warrant such disrespect? Why even say something about such a class act both in and out of the ring who literally embodies everything great and noble about our beloved sport? There's nothing remotely average about Usyk. Average fighters don't achieve a fraction of what he has amateur and pro.

Nelson lost 12 fights and the only fighter on his CV who might possibly have beaten Usyk is Corrie Sanders and I don't see that happening and I love Corrie

Nigel_Benn · Aug 16, 2022

Usyk smokes a big fat cigar before the fight, goes in and hammers Nelson to the body and then proceeds to pound him into submission within 30 seconds of the fight and then leaves the arena without even breaking a sweat.

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