Johnson & Jeannette's Common Opponents

Johnson beat a Sam Langford who had over 50 fights under his belt ,more than Johnson had engaged in at that time .

Langford was 156lbs Johnson 185lbs.Langford was about 20lbs below his optimum weight, Johnson about 25 below his.

We don't know how many fights McVey had when he first fought Johnson.Box rec says he had engaged in several more than he is credited with and so does Adam Pollack.

Jeannette, McVey ,and Langford would all greatly improve.
Wouldn't Johnson?

Johnson gave about 20lbs to McVey in their fights yet comprehensively beat him each time, the most emphatic win was the last one when he stopped McVey.

None of the encounters between Johnson and Jeannette suggest that prime for prime Jeannette ever had the beating of Johnson he was floored multiple times in their fights.

The most informed poster on Sam Langford here ,Clay Moyle ,states that in his opinion Johnson beats Langford.

Your problem has always been the same ,you let hate warp and distort your view.

You have a closed mind .

 

Thanks for the response .I see no argument that Langford and Jeannette deserved title shots. Langford more than Jeannette to whom he was clearly superior.

I'm not convinced that McVey was in any rush to resume hostilities with Johnson.

I started the thread to compare respective results of common opponents between Johnson and Jeannette it has degenerated into who should have got title chances ,largely thanks to Gregory,if I may call him that.
Mendoza's input is naturally of no consequence.

Mullins theory is interesting, but I don't suscribe to it. Five days before a 192lbs Johnson stopped Burns for the title Langford scaling either 158 or 160lbs stopped Jim Flynn ,That means he was only a couple of pounds more than he was when Johnson thrashed him,2 years earlier , whereas Johnson had filled out some, adding 7 lbs to his frame .Langford has a punchers chance against anyone but in 1908 I see a similar result to their first fight.

 

I'm just a fan of boxing not a historian.I claim no special expertise or knowledge.Many on here are far more up to speed with the noble art than myself.
I believe there is a mutual regard between Adam and Mr Moyle.
I've no problem with accepting their opinions on their current subjects and have done so many times.I'd rather not say anything here regarding your posts on Joe Jeannette.Except that I wish you well .:good

 

Langford is the obvious stand out contender. But once again may I remind you that isn't what this thread is /was about.

 

I was drinking with a friend on Saturday he has had both stomach and throat cancer and made a full recovery,I sincerely wish you the same.:good