Johnson & Jeannette's Common Opponents

Listen to me ,do yourself a favour and dissapear, you are making a public show of yourself with your ******ed insults and puerile comments,just concentrate on the fan club you are founder ,president ,and only member of .

"You dont need this Forum ? "

That's excellent news because it surely doesn't need you.

This isn't the place for you ,trust me..:hi:

 

I havent read it but the blurb Jennette has favoured us with has so many verifed inaccuracies in it its a joke. Joe Jeannette appears to vie with Jack Johnson for being economical with the truth.
He says he beat Johnson in their first fight,this isn't supported by contemporary newspapers who relate he took a bit of a pasting but stuck it out well.It was a 3 rounder and he was floored 3 times in the first round,hard to accept he could have been the winner.

Jeannette further says in all his fights with Johnson, save the 15 rounder which he admits he lost, the newspapers unanimously gave him the decision ,well no they didn't, Jeannette was floored multiple times in those short fights and clearly outpointed.

His claim of being 167lbs for his last bout with Johnson is laughable,given he was 26 years old had weighed 185 a few months before and would weigh200lbs against Langford a year later .

Jeannette had a deep seated dislike for Johnson and never missed an opportunity to disparage him and pick against him in fights.

His oft quoted claim that "Jack forgot about his old friends when he became champ" is ludicrous,given that he never had a kind word to say about the man.

Jeannette's claim to be the uncrowned champion is ridiculous because Langford was clearly his master in their series.

Hurdman Lucas who asked Jeannette for that fanciful interview, gives his account of their fights in this link.

http://www.joejennette.com/JeannettevsLangford.html

Provided by Fan BOY1himself!
At the end of it Jeannette says Langford was only about 160lbs in their fights ,if so how come he was on the floor so often?
In one of those fights described Langford scaled185.75lbs to Jeannette's 188.25lbsand in several of their fights Langford weighed from 198 to 200lbs described in one fight as fat as a barrel he still kod Jeannette in 7 rds.

Jeannette seems to have had a fleeting grasp of the numbers on a scale, being" 167lbs" at 26 and fighting a"160pound" Langford. BUll****!



The famous footage of Johnson and Jeannette sparring as old men for a War Bond drive was difficult to set up as Jeannette was reluctant to take part not wishing to leave his car hire and garage business and not wanting to share any time with Johnson.

Johnson is always depicted as the mean spirited braggart, Jeannette and Langford as the true sportsmen, noble figures.Well anyone ever found a quote by Johnson disparaging either of them, their abilities or personalities? There are plenty of quotes from them telling the world what an arsehole Jack was and how they always bet against him even when he fought white men such as Jeffries.Race loyalty? Johnson never possessed it and neither did Langford or Jeannette.

 

This is terrific, it set me up for the day,you've been screaming mispelt insults to all and sundry for daring to disagree with you,then round on posters saying they hide behind insults?
If you weren't so frenzied I would think you were a clever troll.

 

I haven't taken up arms to rip anything, I started a thread on Johnson and Jeannette's common opponents for purposes of comparison .You came on here ,hysterically flying to Jeannette's defence when no one had attacked him.
Klompton and myself have had plenty of disagreements I can assure you ,we are far from best pals but he usually knows what he is talking about, though he does have a rather condescending way of expressing himself on occasion.Hey no one's perfect, there's plenty on here that wouldn't name me as flavour of the month!
Jack Johnson many times named Sam McVey as his toughest opponent and Sam Langford as his second. I've 5 books on Johnson including Adam Pollack's masterpiece I've never read that Johnson considered Jeannette his toughest foe and his results against him would seem to contradict that stance.

All I have read of Mr Botti's book is what you have posted here and elsewhere ,a cursory look at what that contained shows several innaccuracies which does not fill me with confidence in the book.
I also have reservations about how he has projected his own interpretations into the format he has chosen so I doubt I will be buying it any time soon.

H E Grant, a regular poster here and a" robustly forthright" one gave it a good review.
McGrain, one of the best on here, praised his research, maybe I was just unlucky with the passages I have viewed?
God knows a book about Jeannette is a welcome addition to boxing readers.

I have nothing against you or Mr Botti why would I have? This whole scenario could have been avoided if you had reacted rather more reasonably and not taken things so personally, it's water under the bridge now, let's move on.