https://www.historicfilms.com/search...6182i1377o2737 Not just the highlights we seen. Enjoy. If you wish we can discuss Johnson's style and Flynn's " strategy. " The film is rather clear and up close.
Does anyone have as issues with me linking public stuff non copyrighted material? Journeyman? There is a lot more where this came from, stuff that's not on twitter or You Tube. Like Dempsey, Johnson, and Marciano clips. You get the picture. PM me if you have a request. By the way any comments from the Jack Johnson fight vs. Jim Flynn full fight?
My issue isn’t with you sharing, I like that, it’s that you post like a pretend collector and use phrases like “I have film of X” when it’s just readily available on YouTube or multiple other free platforms.
I have a quite a bit in my collection. It's not the largest or even that large of 1,000 films for sure. More like a 100. I have shared this information before with other posters. I mentioned this as in the case of Langford before it uploaded was up loaded on tube tube and other free forums. What business is to you? You are not trying to sell stuff that you think hasn't been available for free, are you? Watch how this question won't get answered at least fully. And welcome back you have been busy posting 8,485 times since you registered in 9-2021 Wow, that is a lot. I can see why your hiding and locking your information down. You are not an Alt with an agenda against me, are you? Nah. Ha-ha no worries, I don't have a lot of time for folks like that. Enjoy the Jack Johnson footage most have never seen before. It's interesting to say the least.
My main take on watching Johnson is that he’d have to do a lot of adjusting to box with true boxing gloves where you can’t grab the opponent arms with your hands to grapple and manipulate him as his chief tactic. Even for his day, I think he rates as an extraordinarily ‘negative’ fighter as his real ability is to nullify the opponent’s offense rather than to actually fight him. Different era, different rules, different equipment … different game entirely.
This footage was originally posted on Boxing Scene History Forum by Houdini, who used to post here.It was first posted on there on the 15th of August 2020 and the poster who has put it up here took it from that source ,after saying he had never seen the full footage before. It doesn't matter where this stuff originates from imo,its just nice for boxing fans to view it. There is no necessity for people to pretend/imply such footage is out of their private collection,when it has been already been posted on another boxing forum 2 years earlier and, by their own admission posted on1st September 2022,they hadn't seen it before. Let's just all enjoy what is currently available and hopefully what else becomes so,without this absurd need for spurious one upmanship.
I see your point but is his style of clinching to shut down an opponents attack so much different to John Ruiz's or Wlad's,both of whom used modern gloves?
I find he fought the small, old, or not very good form Dec 1908 - March 1915, men that he could clinch & hit as he pleased and settled for two draws during meetings only to be knocked out by the best he fought in April 1915. He certainly did not fight Langford, Jeanette, Mcvey, Smith ( who knocked him out in en exhibition match in 1909 as champion ) McCarthy or others. Men that would have been highly ranked back then. Money was offered in the form of press announcements and in one case a contact signed but, no fights for Jack. I find he ducked them. On the film vs. Flynn, he should have been docked points but the DQ stoppage to me leaves the match unsettled. Hitting and holding where part of his game. Yet the ref allows for that. Flynn's skills speak for themselves. Any score cards here? Or punch stats? Or clinch stats? That drives some people nuts yet I seen them use the same tactics against other fighters they don't care for, while not mentioning Johnson at all. Anyway here is the full fight. We can now all view it!
It was Jim Flynn who was the genius here as he was the oneone who invented and passed down the peekaboo style and left hook to damatk. All hed have to do is move side to side abit . Johnson versus tyson here it is .
Indeed, I actually find it humorous that he uses his obviously fictional collection as a crutch to rest on in debates and feels the compulsive desire to inject mentions of it into countless posts. I don’t think Doza has watched more then maybe 30 hours worth of boxing outside highlights.