Johnson vs. Jeanette DQ news read in the works

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    ^^ I might need to email this report here for someone to post. For those who are interested, this report says Jeanette was the busier/better in round one. It also says Jeanette was much lighter. The low blow Johnson threw is described as landing several inches below the belt. Here's the kicker, Gentleman Jack threw more punches after he landed the low blow.

    Who can I email this report to post? McVey, you'd better get a paper bag ready incase you hyperventilate.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Send it ,I will post it.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Um, Ok, PM me your email, and I will send it to you to post here.
     
  4. mcvey

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    Just wondering what particular insight the Boston papers would have on this as the fight was held in Philadelphia.I am English and my US geography is hazy , but a Philly paper would surely have more gravitas.
     
  5. mcvey

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    On reflection, perhaps it would be better if you mailed it to another poster?
     
  6. Mendoza

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    Why is that:D You asked for it. I offer. Might this be a new pattern? I think so. I will have to go in 15 mintues. Anyone who wants to read this report, please PM my your email, then post it here.
     
  7. mcvey

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    I dont understand this comment,I am as anxious to read the report as anyone, I just do not feel comfortable giving you my e mail address.
    Surely you have one friend here you can e mail?
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Ok, someome PM me their email to post this. I will clear up space in my PM box, as I have over 90 messages.
     
  9. mcvey

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    JOHNSON BEATS JEANETTE
    Negro Champion, However, Was Disqualified on an Alleged Foul
    11/25/05-PHILADELPHIA LEDGER
    After outclassing Joe Jeanette for a round and a half, Jack Johnson, The
    Negro Heavyweight Champion of the World, lost the bout at the National
    Athletic Club [Phila.] last night on an alleged foul.
    Jeanette, after being thumped in lively fashion in the first round, assumed
    a crouching pose in the secondround. He undertook to run in and clinch,
    ducking a vicious right hand swing. Johnson ripped a right hand hook up for Jeanette's jaw. The latter dropped to the floor,writhing in apparent agony.
    He claimed to have been struck a foul blow.
    He was removed to the dressing room and the club physician substantiated
    his claim. Johnson was promtly disqualified. Jeanettte professed to be in
    great pain and lay in his dressing room in apparent agony. It is understood
    that the police proposed to keep Johnson to keep Johnson, Jeanette and
    the club officialunder surveillance.



    JACK JOHNSON BEATS JEANETTE
    Heavyweights Box Six Fast Rounds At National Club
    12/2/05-Philadelphia Ledger
    Jack Johnson defeated Joe Jeanette in six fast rounds at the National
    Athletic Club last night. Jeanette was forced to take the count once in
    the fifth round and three times in the sixth round.

    01/16/06
    Jack Johnson,; the colored heiavyweight.
    who challenged Jim Jeffries at
    different times, made his New York debut
    in the ring ;in a three-round bout
    at the Sharkey A. C. Monday night
    with Joe Jeanette, and the negro Johnson,
    as usual, showed his skill as, a
    boxer and had no trouble In outpointing
    Jeanette.

    The first report is from the Philadelphia Ledger ,where the fight took place, as such, it is possibly more accurate than a wire report from the Boston Herald, which we are assured is coming presently.
     
  10. mattdonnellon

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    JOHNSON FOUGHT FOUL.
    PHJI-ADELPHIA. Nov. 28.—Jaok
    Johnron, the colored champion heavyw
    i g h t , has gotten himself very 'much
    disliked In this city. He brought this
    bad feeling on himself through his
    foul tactics while boxing Joe Jeannette,
    the colored boxer of New York In their
    six-round bout before the National A.
    C. Saturday night. These tactics finall
    y resulted In Johnson deliberately
    - landing a foul blow on Jeannette In
    the secortd round, which caused the
    later to sink to the floor In agony.
    At the time Jeannette was punishing
    him severely about the body.
    Jeannette was so badly Injured that
    he was carried out of the ring and Into
    h i s dressing-room, and Johnson was
    disqualified. The police arrested Johnson
    and charged him with assault and
    battery.
     
  11. mattdonnellon

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    The report above is from the Syracuse Journal, 26/11/05(Sorry, havent time to edit it)

    Police Gazette, below.

    JOHNSON FOULED JEANNETTE.
    The announcement that Jack Johnson would meet
    Joe J e a n n e t t e at the National A. C , Philadelphia, on
    Nov. 25, was t h e means of drawing a large crowd to
    see t h e big fellows in action.
    The bout lasted only two rounds, but was a hummer
    from the t ap of the gong, J e a n n e t t e having the l>est of
    the milling.
    I n the second round Joe opened up operations with
    a left to t h e face, and Johnson missed a vicious right
    uppercut. Johnson then swung his left to t h e body,
    but Joe came back with left to t h e face and right to t he
    bodj'. Johnson put his left to the face, and J o e sent
    several jabs to t h e face, which worriedJohnson and he
    rushed madly at Joe and swinging a wicked left it
    landed low on the New Yorker, who dropped to t he
    floor, where he lay writhing in agony for some tune,
    until he was carried to his dressing room
     
  12. mcvey

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    Thanks for posting this Matt ,we now have both sides of the coin .The question is not did Johnson foul Jeannette? But, did he do it because he was in danger of losing?
     
  13. mattdonnellon

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    The Boston Globe report.
    I have shied away from getting involved anymore in these debates between two knowlegable posters as having posted material that plainly proved somethings, it was ignored in order to score a point.
    However one last run....

    JOHNSON LOSES ON FOUL
    One of Jack's Rain of Blows on Joe
    Jeannette Goes Low in Bout at
    .Philadelphia.
    PHILADELPHIA, Nov 25—Joe Jeanliette
    of New York went down in the
    second round of the wind-up with.Jack
    Johnson, tho negro heavyweight champion,
    at the .National A. C. tonigh,'.
    from a foul blow, and 10 minutes later
    he was carried from the ring suffering
    Intense pain.
    The blow was delivered about the middle
    of the second round and when both
    men were fighting fast. Johnson rushed
    Jeannette into a corner and one of his
    many; swings, went foul, the blow landing
    several inohos below the belt. Joannfittfl's
    ; seconds worked over' him five
    minutes, and then carried him to his
    dressing room.
    Jeanhette, to the surprise of evnry
    one, 'had all the better of the flrst
    round. Ho was fully six inches Shorter
    than his opponent, and 25 pounds lighter.
    Comrftencing the second round, Johnson
    sent a. hard right to Jeannetto's
    body and swung another right for the
    ilaw, but Jeannette was out of harm's
    way and came back with that bad left
    to Johnson's jaw. This appeared to
    anger the big champion, and he went
    after Jeannette.
    Many of his blows, which had steam
    enough behind them to drive Jeannette
    through the ropes, missed, and as Joannetto
    straightened up after each ducking
    bee he nearly always managed to
    tap Johnson's jaw.
    Johnson fought Joe around the ring,
    and, finally getting him In a corner,
    rained" right and left on his body, one
    of which blows went low and Jeannotto
    fell.to the mat.
    Johnson, not knowing that he had
    hurt Jeannette, struck him at least
    twice while the latter was falling
     
  14. mcvey

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    Whatever the merits of this fight ,they met a week later, and Johnson floored Jeannette 4 times in 6 rounds to take an easy decision.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Thanks again, Johnson was 6 foot and one quarter inches,Jeannette, 5 foot 10 inches ,I don't know where they got the 6 inches in height difference from?
    We also have no weights for the fight so the 25lbs difference is clearly an estimate.
    A year after this fight, 1905, Johnson still only scaled 185lbs, I find it hard to believe that the 26year old Jeannette ,only scaled 160lbs for his fight with Johnson.

    I agree Jeannette was not seasoned, but in his second fight ,after beating Johnson, he stopped 46 fight Langford in 8 rds.