Johnson vs. Jeffries: Who Was The Morally Better Person?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Discuss.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Let him who is without sin-----------
     
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  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mendoza comes in talking about pimping in 5,4,3...
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You got it!
     
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  5. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't know who was morally better.. but I know Johnson was the better fighter
     
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  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    exactly.
     
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  8. janitor

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    Its a tough call.

    Jeffries was the better man morally in terms of his personal conduct. He was honest, decent, and seems to have tried to avoid using his fists on civilians.

    That has to be ballenced against the fact that he held certain racist viewpoints, and ultimately aligned himself with the wrong side of the colour line debate.
     
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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    This question worms itself into just about every Johnson vs. Jeffries debate anyway, so we might as well get it out in the open and over with.
     
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  10. janitor

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    If I had to be involved in a fender bender with one of them, I would choose Jeffries.

    Having said that it would be much easier to get Johnsons autograph and he would be far more likley to buy you a drink. He was simply far more fan friendly.

    I would be more likley to buy a used car off Jeffries.

    Johnsons atitudes on race and civil liberties would be much more paletable today.
     
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  11. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we are going by what worms its way into every thread, maybe we need a mendoza mcvey morality question?
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Jeffries was the morally better person, but he didn't have to live with Jack's difficulties. Given his surly and sullen approach to the wider world, it's hard to imagine how he would have taken to the title had the white man been a persecuted minority.
     
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  13. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Johnson did not give his fellow Black fighters a title shot. They hated him more than they hated Jeffries.
     
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  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Difficult to quantify.
     
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