Johnson's DQ against Jeannette

Two sources:


JOHNSON FOUGHT FOUL.
PHJI-ADELPHIA. Nov. 28.—Jack
Johnson, the colored champion heavy
i g h t , has gotten himself very 'much
disliked In this city. He brought this
bad feeling on himself through his
foul tactics while boxing Joe Jeannette,
the colored boxer of New York In their
six-round bout before the National A.
C. Saturday night. These tactics finally
resulted In Johnson deliberately
- landing a foul blow on Jeannette In
the second round, which caused the
later to sink to the floor In agony.
At the time Jeannette was punishing
him severely about the body.
Jeannette was so badly Injured that
he was carried out of the ring and Into
his dressing-room, and Johnson was
disqualified. The police arrested Johnson
and charged him with ***ault and
battery.


Syracuse Journal 11-5-06

Police Gazette, below.

JOHNSON FOULED JEANNETTE.
The announcement that Jack Johnson would meet
Joe Jeannette at the National A. C , Philadelphia, on
Nov. 25, was the means of drawing a large crowd to
see the big fellows in action.

The bout lasted only two rounds but was a hummer
from the tap of the gong, Jeannette having the best of
the milling.

In the second round, Joe opened up operations with
a left to the face and Johnson missed a vicious right
uppercut. Johnson then swung his left to the body,
but Joe came back with left to the face and right to the
body'. Johnson put his left to the face, and Joe sent
several jabs to the face, which worried Johnson and him
rushed madly at Joe and swinging a wicked left it
landed low on the New Yorker, who dropped to the
floor, where he lay writhing in agony for some tine,
until he was carried to his dressing room

 

JOHNSON BEATS JEANETTE
Negro Champion, However, Was Disqualified on an Alleged Foul

After outclassing Joe Jeanette for a round and a half, Jack Johnson, The Negro Heavyweight Champion of the World, lost the bout at the National Athletic Club last night on an alleged foul.
Jeanette, after being thumped in lively fashion in the first round, assumed a crouching pose in the second round. He undertook to run in and clinch, ducking a vicious left hand swing. Johnson ripped a right hand hook up for Jeanette's jaw. The latter dropped to the floor, writhing in apparent agony. He claimed to have been struck a foul blow.
He was removed to the dressing room and the club physician substantiated his claim. Johnson was promptly disqualified. Jeanette professed to be in great pain and lay in his dressing room in apparent agony. It is understood that the police proposed to keep Johnson, Jeanette and the club official under surveillance.
Philadelphia Public Ledger

Given Johnson's record against Jeannette, I think the question you would have to ask yourself is, why would Johnson need to foul Jeannette?
A week after this fight Johnson beat Young Peter Jackson and the next day beat Jeannette and then repeated the win a month later, then again 2 months later,he had no need to foul Joe,especially in a fight he was winning.

 

What?

 

Getting him mixed up with Richard K Fox,the rest of my statement stands.

 

Sam Austin did most of the writing about boxing in NPG at the time.

 

Pollack quotes Naughton several times in both volumes of Johnson's bio. He was pretty much guaranteed to be negative about him and he was on the Flynn fight,suggesting Flynn threw away his chance for victory,by fouling.
Yet Flynn himself said he would foul out if he got into difficulties,which suggests he saw the writing on the wall.

 

I wasn't reading Naughton much to comment. His syndicated write-ups, which were published in hundreds or thousands of newspapers, were very much focused on heavyweights, and I'm not particularly interested in that weight division. And I never had access to SF Examiner, for which he wrote on regular basis.

 

I'm aware he was widely circulated and read,no criticism was intended on my part,and thanks for the earlier correction.

 

One of the Boston papers said Johnson fired several low blows. I'll see if I can find it and post it here. There is a dispute as to who won the first round. The sources I posted say Jeanette was the better. Hard tell with different stories, but there is no dispute Joe was fouled and injured. Didn't a doctor confirm this?

When it comes to accident fouls, I think it's best to examine the fighters career. If this is the only one land, okay it could be an accident. But in Johnson case, he went low in other fights.

 

I'll take the local paper that had a representative present.Which other fights did Johnson go low in, name them?
Q,have you ever been hit low? I have, there was no evidence of it for a couple of days.

The alleged foul was hotly disputed and since Johnson had won the first round handily what would have been the motive for him fouling?
Jeannette was such a threat to Johnson that he fought Young Peter Jackson the day before he faced him again next time!

Johnson once fought Jeannette and Black Bill on the same day!
Q. What did Jeannette do better than Johnson?
A.F*ck all!
Johnson floored Jeannette multiple times in their series whereas Jeannette never had Johnson in any trouble.Johnson was dsq'd ONCE in78,[probably over a 100] fights.
Nobody expects objectivity from you on this subject, but a little common sense would be refreshing.

 

I hope you are learning as we go. Not so long ago it was proven that Jack Johnson backed out of a signed deal to fight Langford. Got that? So you need more proof he went low? Sure, keep in mind I don't write these reports. If you want to be viewed as objective just accept the truth on the man.

After losing to Willard it appears Johnson went back to Cuba to make some extra money. He had two fights.

1 ) Farmer Lodge, 10-8 ( 2-4 in his last 6 fights )

2 ) Jack Thompson. 20-10-5 ( 2-3 in his last five fights )


Johnson hit Lodge low ( See links below, which work for me. )

[url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...KguAAAAIBAJ&sjid=bdgFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3058,5460551[/url]

[url]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9806E6DB1F30E333A25751C1A9639C946295D6CF[/url]


And might have agreed to go through the motions with Thompson. AKA another one of those " pre-arrangements "


"So bad was the bout that the boxing commissioner, sitting at the ringside, fined each fighter $500 for stalling. In the 10th round, the referee left the ring (and replaced by promoter Sam Tolan), while a shower of cushions, pop bottles, and other missiles was hurled at the boxers." Tacoma News Tribune. Wire Service report states no official decision was rendered. "

>>>So now you know he went low in more than one fight. Got it? Keep in mind there's a lot of reports out there most have not read. I'd bet he went low more often. And it appears Johnson might have gone low in a DQ fight he won vs Ferguson.

 

Johnson ko'd Lodge on the 6th of May 1923 in Havana Cuba lol.Johnson was 45 years old and hadn't been in a ring for 3 years.

Johnson got the NWS decision over Thompson two weeks later. Source Box Rec and about 6 biographies.
Sorry , you'll have to do better than this!
Johnson signed to fight Langford in Covent Garden he was then a challenger after winning the title he announced his price for defending it was $30,000 the same as Burns had received for defending against him The purse offered for the Langford fight was way below this.Johnson later agreed to defend against Langford for $30,000 if Woodman would post a cash bond as evidence of good faith.Woodman failed to come up with the money.Source Sam Langford by Clay Moyle!


Keep that hate coming, it really gives the newbies an insight into your warped personality.lol

 

You asked for the other fights that I am aware of where Johnson went low. I produced them. Now, did you learn anything? See how it goes, you always ask for proof, then I provide the facts.

Johnson cheated the fans vs Thompson, whether he beat him or not weeks later, to be frank means, Jack.

The real test is will admit the truth, and retain it for the future?

Johnson backed out of a signed contract to fight Langford! He's dishonourable, among other things which you seem to defend.

Saying Woodman didn't come up with the money on another separate occasion does not change the fact that Johnson backed out of a signed contract before. Had Woodman come up with the $30,000.00 on the other occasion, I bet Johnson would have asked for more, then fight some unworthy person for the title. Essentially that's his career as the champion, avoiding the best, and looking mediocre, small or old 2nd, save Willard who knocked him out.

You have been owned once again on this topic, which is why you play the race card. Newbies unaware of Johnson's dirty tactics in and out of the ring, will learn nothing from you, but something from me.

 

No, you produced Jack Sh*t! Read Box Rec, that will tell you the results of those fights numb nuts! You talk about honour! A racist, cowardly, lying ,bet welching ,scumbag like you? Give us a break!