Jones and the excuse that he lost too much weight.

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  1. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like JOnes, but I don't buy the weight loss excuse. Here's my reason...
    HE WON!
    He won the 1st fight against Tarver. The one where he initially had to lose the weight. The next two fight should have given him more time to adjust. The weight might have affected Jones, but it's no excuse for the losses. Remember... HE WON. He won.
     
  2. Johnnyblaze

    Johnnyblaze Active Member Full Member

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    His stamina hasn't looked good since he moved back down from heavyweight. He layed on the ropes for probably about 2/3 of the first fight against Tarver. that was evidence enough that he was too gassed and his stamina and punching power hasn't been the same either since. His speed and reflexes are not what they used to be as a result of just getting old. that and the combination of his diminished strength and stamina makes me believe that he should retire.
     
  3. wvucheerjr

    wvucheerjr Active Member Full Member

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    Roy should fight Clinton Woods like he mentioned before the Omar fight. Let Johnson get his rematch against Dawson and if Glenn pulls the upset Roy could get his title shot.
     
  4. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    as a big rjj fan and supporter, he should retire.
     
  5. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I agree, Tarver was stronger. Plus Tarver landed a better and cleaner punch.
     
  6. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His huggers initially said it was the weight that he did not look impressive against Tarver the 1st time.

    Then it was just a lucky punch when he got koed by Raever in the rematch.

    Then he has no motivation in the Johnson fight.

    And in the 3rd Tarver fight, he intentionally let himself lose so his dad will not get credit.

    Amazing really.
     
  7. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a combination of different things. His loss of muscle mass was a big problem, as evident in the 1st fight with Tarver. He went to the ropes way too much, was tired at points, and couldn't consistently move around like he could. In the 2nd fight he got caught. He was already declining, his reflexes were not as they once were and Tarver KFTO Jones. Jones tried to do what he did in his prime and break the technical rules of boxing, by throwing a left hook from wayyyy outside and got caught.

    The Johnson fight, he didn't have any motivation. You could see it. And he also didn't have any more confidence, it was all gone after Tarver KO'd him. He just got his ass beat for 9 rounds and got hit in the temple and when his head hit the canvas it bounced off of it hard. That was bad. The 3rd Tarver fight, again, Jones is shot mentally, physically doesn't have the reflexes and legs like he used to. He wasn't ever going to beat Tarver at this point, because of his mental being as scattered as it is.
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Jones needs some roids? He should retire or he should fight Johnson, Dawson is afraid of Johnson so let Jones fight him.
     
  9. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And then after all that, someone suddenly decides, "Oh! I know! He's been weight drained all this time!" :patsch :rofl

    Glad to see someone else remembers the lengthy Chain of Excuses! :good
     
  10. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Evidence??? How do you know this?? he tested positive for one fight, and so did the other fighter for the same substance. Unless I completely missed something, this is just your speculation
     
  11. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He lost his confidence...:patsch he went to the ropes too much...:patsch that is absolutely to be taken against him. That is not even an excuse at all, let alone a good excuse.

    You could have just cut the chase and said amen to my post :lol: :roll:
     
  12. KingKrish

    KingKrish Active Member Full Member

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    Ask Chris Byrd wether weight loss effected him, I think Jones is now walking around 185 instead of 200+ when he fought RUIZ. Also losing it at 35 doesnt help, different to losing it at 25

    That helps alot.

    Ask Manny Pacman, he was at FLYWEIGHT and couldnt take a punch from a flyweight
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    It is no coincidence that when he started getting hit on that brittle Glass Jaw he started getting brutally knocked out. As someone already said he won the first tarver fight and had PLENTY of time after that for his body to adjust to the weight but he get spark knocked out twice.

    It is all just excuses for that Glass Jaw.
     
  14. DDA365

    DDA365 Gatecrasher Full Member

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    He got old overnight

    the weight was probably a factor yeah

    but if anyone can watch roy jones fights pre and post ruiz and tell me thats the same fighter, then their opinion is worthless to me
     
  15. KingKrish

    KingKrish Active Member Full Member

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    I saw










    I guess Ray Leanord has a glass Jaw getting Kod by Hector Comacho?