Jones filing lawsuit over Green bout

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  1. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Warick i think you nailed it so ill shut up for now! ;)
     
  2. dawsosj

    dawsosj Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hit the nail on the head again rodin, also talked to somebody about the money owed today, there is money owed by danny and he already emailed roys management about that , its only a small amount also. With the rematch clause it was a condition that square ring promotions had to put down 2 million dollars to secure the rematch, as this is what green machine promotions had to do to secure the original fight, and since this hasnt been done, there will be no rematch as of yet.
     
  3. IrnBruMan

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    If you read the letter written by Wirt, you will find the order of events according to him went thus:
    • Rayco Saunders attended the wrapping of Green's hands (see the last sentence of paragraph 4, which reads "Set forth below is a photograph of the box containing the material which Mr. Saunders obtained from Mr. Green's locker room while he was observing Mr. Green's hand wrapping.").
    (So TinyCunt, you are wrong in stating that a member of RJJ's team wasn't present when Green's hands were wrapped :roll:)
    • Saunders objected to the type of material used as bandages to wrap Green's hands, the manner in which Green's hands were wrapped, the use of adhesive tape directly on Green's skin and the width of the tape used. These objections were overruled by Commission supervisors.
    • Saunders advised Wright and Wirt of his objections being overruled and Wirt, Saunders and Wright requested permission to examine Green's wrapped hands "immediately preceding the commencement of the Bout" - in other words, as Green was making his way to the ring. Craig Waller denied that request.
    • Wirt and co then requested that a sample of the material used to wrap Green's hands be provided, but were again denied - why would they need a sample when "the box containing the material which Mr. Saunders obtained from Mr. Green's locker room while he was observing Mr. Green's hand wrapping." was already in their possession?
    • Craig Waller then advised Wirt and co that RJJ must fight or be DQ'd.
    Wirt then goes on to quote variouos clauses backing his allegations.

    There is no chain of evidence in this case:
    • A photo of Green with what looks like excessive handwrapping with 2 pieces of adhesive bandage that appear to be wider than 2.5cms stuck to the wall behind him from a newspaper article - what does this prove? It could be a photo of Green with his hands wrapped for a session on the heavy bag, it could be a photo of Green with his hands wrapped for an entirely different fight to the RJJ one, it could be a photo of Green with his hands wrapped incorrectly before they were unwrapped and rewrapped correctly for the Bout, it could be a photo of Green with his hands wrapped incorrectly before they were unwrapped and rewrapped correctly for an entirely different fight, etc.
    • a photo of a box of adhesive bandages that contravene the regulations of the Commission - what does this prove? We have only Saunders' word that the box came from Green's locker room and that the material used to wrap Green's hands for the RJJ Bout came from this box. Green may have used this material for strapping his ankles for all anyone else knows.
    • The fact that Saunders objected to the type of material used as bandages to wrap Green's hands, the manner in which Green's hands were wrapped, the use of adhesive tape directly on Green's skin and the width of the tape used - what does this prove? It was overruled by the Commission. To claim corruption because it suits your agenda doesn't mean it is so.
    • The fact that Wirt, Saunders and Wright requested permission to examine Green's wrapped hands "immediately preceding the commencement of the Bout" - what does this prove? To me it means they were trying to disrupt and delay Green's approach to the ring, by having him unlace his gloves so they could view his handwraps. Again, they were denied. Again, to claim corruption because it suits your agenda does not make it so.
    In case you don't know, the onus is on the prosecution to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that Green is guilty of using illegal handwrapping materials and methods.

    I'll happily take donkey's avatar bet, because there is no solid evidence that Green's hands were wrapped illegally - all Team RJJ have are allegations based on their objections at the time, a box they claim contains the material used to wrap Green's hands, and an unqualified newspaper article photo showing Green with apparently excessive wrapping.

    Even when Margarito got busted with loaded gloves the attending member of Mosely's team managed to get the actual inserts, not a box that may have contained said inserts.

    I'm surprised TinyCunt, that you have no grasp of the concept of the chain of evidence - surely you are so dumb you would have been in court at least once in your life? Or maybe you're so dumb you've been in court more than once because you can't learn from your experiences? :lol:
     
  4. BoppaZoo

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    Yes for AFL
    On my ankles. And even in the wet freezing day they never went hard.

    In fact when wet alot it would go soft if anything.

    Thats a fact TCBoxa. But i admit it took ****ing ages to get the ******* of **** off your ankles.

    Just about most AFL or Rugby players use it for the ankles. Not once did i find the stuff get hard.
     
  5. dawsosj

    dawsosj Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i also use it for my ankles and also on my wrist, and it gets soggy in the wet, not hard, agree with boppa it is a **** to take off almost draws blood and takes half your body hair with it
     
  6. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    like i will say and will continue to say to every hater out there.

    Im with you irnbruman.

    Green would win a rematch no matter how much they watched over him with his so called illegal wraps (or spilt milk).

    I see the fight ending the same way. Its easy not to get knocked out by b-hop or joe calzaghe but danny green has a different type of power. Raw power or one shot power.

    You would get the same ****ing result in a rematch.
     
  7. BoppaZoo

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    :lol:It hurts right. Yeah some of these ****ers going on like ****ing experts never played sport in there life or been in a Ring or probably a fight in the life.

    Just computer nerds. That Nexcare **** gets really badly soggy when you play in the wet.

    I used to shave my legs to about my lower shin to save ripping all the hairs out and drawing blood.:good
     
  8. zelky

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    Some weird ****en people around boxing. They'll try to talk themselves up in any way possible. Some even claim that someone close to the told them this fight was a definite fix.

    Same deluded persons as always.
     
  9. JOSEY WALES

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    You shaved your legs to stop the hairs ripping out ? :lol:
     
  10. BoppaZoo

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    Ask any guys that play football or Rugby in England Josey if they shave there ankles so the tape doesnt rip all there hairs out.

    I bet 98% say they shave there legs.

    I know its gay. :lol:
     
  11. donkeyking

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    Any more takers besides IBM and Cedric?
     
  12. boxoncottonon

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    Why shut up now....you haven't told us yet how **** Danny Green is :good.
     
  13. boxoncottonon

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    What was the bet?
     
  14. cedrichw

    cedrichw Well-Known Member Full Member

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    when do they go to court
     
  15. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets face it guys, Green is as slow as a wet fart! He would never stand his own against ANY of the current world crusierweight title holders!

    BruaFag im about to put you on ignore because all you do is bullsht and coincidently leave out vital parts of your fruitless defence and attempt to look all maco like on an internet forum lol

    The wraping was never witnessed by anyone from Jones camp, please show otherwise and stop making sht up!

    Worst thing Green did was hook up with Hyder! Atleast Fenech tried to lead Green on the right path, winning world titles the right way and winning REAL WORLD TITLES not fake bullsht ones like the IBO, Green should focus on winning something Ligit instead of trying to lure out corpses to increase his so called Ledgendary status hahaha!

    Now BruaFag time to notch up another point on your ****** dumb azz! lol..

    Immediately preceding the commencement of the bout would be right after its finished you fcking loony! and yes it was denied! This is something that has already been pointed out in the Pro RJJ posts on many forums! FACT that Green refused to remove his gloves after the bout is suspect, what did he have to hide? Well we can see what he had to hide by the photo taken afterwards in the change room which show the huge cat paws, excessive use of bandages #1 and the size of the tape used which BruaFag remember you claimed couldnt be measured by any means lol

    BruaFag now changes his tune from "what if's" to "It could be's" same sht diffrent smell you Green Hugging Poofta!

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