Jones has never been jacked up like that

Were you living in a ****ing in Joes ******* the last few years?

Jones was KTFO by Tarver and then by Glen Johnson or do you choose to ignore that? He has been out for a long time, win over a retired former welterweight in Trinidad is not a comeback. Joe the Oppurtunist Calzaghe just timed his fight with a Jones that is a shell of himself. The only thing Calzaghe proved is that he is the greatest oppurtunist.

 

Get real. RJJ has been shot since 2005. AND there's a huge difference between a 36 yr old fighter and a 39 yr old fighter going on 40. Just look at Hopkins @ 36 (Trinidad) compared to Hopkins @ 39 (Taylor) and you see the HUGE difference...

Remember Tarver dominated a much fresher RJJ and Johnson just flat out destroyed him.

 

atsch

 

Jones beat Hopkins when Hopkins was about ten years show of his prime.

 

On his day I think Bernard is a marginally better fighter than Calzaghe.
As the cliche goes, styles make fights and I would back Jones to beat Hopkins prime for prime, Roy was too hard to hit back in the day and Hopkins would have to be the aggressor ... which isn't his style.

 

He beat a shotter than shot Roy Jones, who was already embarrassed by Tarver and Johnson almost 4 years ago.

In short, he beat a zombie. Nothng to brag about.

 

Prime Jones has faster handspeed than Prime Joe, and wouldn't have been as gun shy as he was the other night. Anybody using that as a measuring stick for how a fight in 2000 would have played out have no knowledge of the sport.

 

Jones is totally shot don't fool yourself and try to make the win worth more then it is Roy hasn't had a good win since 2003. While Calzaghe is not his prime he is a lot closer to it then Roy. Jones biggest win was 14 years ago while Joe was probably last year or two years ago.

 

Joe's boxing skill didn't catch up with his body until pretty late in his career.

Roy Jones peaked, likely around 26, and his style was more based on reflex, handspeed and footspeed.

Roy in his prime was quick enough to time a counter right cross over most fighters jabs.. You saw Jones squatting with his chin out looking for something at moments last night, and Calzaghe would pop Jones with a jab. In his prime, Jones would have had the reflexes to time Joe's jab with a right cross.

Calzaghe as a fighter didn't peak until later on in his career. That being said, fighters decline in speed and reflex at different rates..

If Joe declined at the same speed Jones has declined at, then you are essentially saying at some point in Joe C's career, he could have been compared to the likes of Meldrick Taylor, SRL, and was faster than Floyd Mayweather?

Joe is pretty fast, but he's on a whole lower level than the elite speedsters. More of a very durable fighter that is relatively fast and has very big output. IMO he is like an accurate punching version of Ricky Hatton, more gas, a better chin and a better workrate.

English Tit, Joe C is a great fighter, but he won't go down in history as a flashy, slick speedster. He will go down in history as a very durable output fighter.

 

you have a point but you can't just look at age to see who is more shot. joe hasn't been severely KO"d like jr a couple of times and has suffered less overall abuse to his body (no dramatic weight gain, no 'ripped fuel' etc). just look at tapes of each fighter's fights from 6 years ago and you'll see with your own eyes who is much more shot