JONES , HOPKINS CALZAGHE OPPOSITION...and when they faced them make your mind up????

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by krishv123, Dec 28, 2010.


  1. krishv123

    krishv123 Guest

    Calzaghe :

    Robin Reid - lost his previous fight...got schooled b Malinga

    Richie Woodhall - GOt beat by Keith Holmes at Middleweight in his previous fight ..came out of retirement to face Joe.

    Eubank - Was past his best took the fight at 2 weeks notice when he was supposed to fight MArk prince at Light Heavy....was semi retired fighting on small horse Shows in Dubai

    Jeff LAcy--- Career defining fight....says it all about the quality of super middle division...remember Lacy was lucky to survice journeyman Omar Sheika in his previous fight.


    KEssler - Was the 2nd best at the time....faced Joe in Wales...got schooled worse by Ward


    Byron Mitchell- A premature stoppage???? he also lost his previous fight to Ottke.


    Roy Jones- Calzaghe fans will convince you he was still close to his peak...ROFL


    BHop-- The only top win on his resume....but didnt Jermaine Taylor beat him twice....Calzaghe ran from the rematch....Taylor looked far better also.

    Calzaghe FACED 8 WORLD CHAMPIONS during his reign....only one was ranked as a P4P during his career BHOP





    JONES.

    Malinga - Just beat Nigel Benn
    BHOP - undefeated for vacant middleweight title
    James Toney - was P4P nr1/2 at the time
    Reggie Johnson- IBF light HEavy champ
    Del Valle- WBA Light Heavy Champ
    Clinton Woods - went on to win IBF Light Heavy
    Ruiz- WBA heavy champ
    Virgil Hill- was slightly ast his best but still excellent fighter
    Tarver- Moved from Heavy down to light heavy to makehistory against a hungry lion
    Julio Gonzalez - was at his peak ...went on to beat Dariuz
    Otiz Grant - out of his depth but was ranked 7 in super middle division in 2005 former WBO champ
    Montel Griffin - we know the story

    Mike Mcullum- Past his best but as significant as Joes win against Roy

    Eric Lucas- beat down stillyoung and hungry

    Jeff Lacy - both past best

    Trinidad - an exibition



    16 World Champions -




    BHOP -

    Jean PAscal - Prime champ
    Pavlik - out of his weight division but amazing performance ---Calzaghe didnt want this fight opted to go for ROy Jones in low risk fight....suprise suprise....consistant theme in Joes career

    Winky Wright- Was regarded the dangerman at the time

    Tarver- Schooled Tarver who was champ at the time


    De La Hoya- Hoya was out of his depth

    Joppy - past his best was a brutal beating


    Felix Trinidad- for me still his defining win Trinidad was P4P ...destroyed Joppy ( anatural middleweight) so that destroys notion that he was a small guy


    Keith Holmes - unified championship


    Glenn Johnson- Hopkin sin his prime very agressive...the Old Bhop



    10 World Champions..



    One thing people should understand is that its not who you face its when you face them.....

    For me Calzaghes resume far lags behind these guys...If Manchester UTD played Bolton 40 games a season would they lose....thats the problem with Joes Career...not enough if any Barcelonas/Madrids.

    Nice Job Frank Warren



    OVERALL


    CALZAGHE 8 former/World Champs - 2 Current

    Jones- 16 Champs - 6 Current

    Hopkins- 10 Champs - 4 current
     
  2. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BHOP wasn't undefeated when Jones beat him.
     
  3. dbatch

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    bhop lost his first pro fight then went on to become a legend!
     
  4. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your bias is ridiculous. Why under Tarver on Jones resume didn't you put - was schooled worse by Hopkins.
     
  5. KERRZO

    KERRZO Glass Jaw Full Member

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    Hopkins also fought JT twice
     
  6. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    Good Job! Has a few holes that need filling but overall tells the lame story of Joe Calzaghe's manufacture by hype marketing specialist, Frank Warren. People saying it isn't Calzaghe's fault he fought only bums are goofy. Of course it's Calzaghe's fault. He eagerly accepted fighting all those bums for all those years without compliant. Now his legacy is as shitty as his career opponent choices. Not even Beetle Baily's bucket of sissy tears can change this reality.
     
  7. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone can do that you ******.

    JONES.

    Malinga - Just beat Nigel Benn (shot Nigel Benn)
    BHOP - undefeated for vacant middleweight title (Not undefeated, went on to draw with Segundo Mercado before finally winning title, green B Hop)
    James Toney - was P4P nr1/2 at the time (Went on to lose to Griffin in next fight, weight drained at 168)
    Reggie Johnson- IBF light HEavy champ (lost to every good fighter he faced)
    Del Valle- WBA Light Heavy Champ (lost to every good fighter he faced)
    Clinton Woods - went on to win IBF Light Heavy (had a loss to David Starie, who Calzaghe beat, lol)
    Ruiz- WBA heavy champ (One of the worst champions in history, went on to lose to a fat James Toney too)
    Virgil Hill- was slightly ast his best but still excellent fighter (coming off loss to Dariusz)
    Tarver- Moved from Heavy down to light heavy to makehistory against a hungry lion (Controversial decision)
    Julio Gonzalez - was at his peak ...went on to beat Dariuz (past prime, lost to every other good opponent)
    Otiz Grant - out of his depth but was ranked 7 in super middle division in 2005 former WBO champ (who?)
    Montel Griffin - we know the story (good win)

    Mike Mcullum- Past his best but as significant as Joes win against Roy (true)

    Eric Lucas- beat down stillyoung and hungry (so?)

    Jeff Lacy - both past best (lacy is more shot than jones if thats even possible)

    Trinidad - an exibition (lol, trinidad?)



    16 World Champions -




    BHOP -

    Jean PAscal - Prime champ (lost to Froch, handpicked by hopkins)
    Pavlik - out of his weight division but amazing performance ---Calzaghe didnt want this fight opted to go for ROy Jones in low risk fight....suprise suprise....consistant theme in Joes career (as you said, 10 lbs out of weight, went on to get outboxed at his natural weight too)

    Winky Wright- Was regarded the dangerman at the time (10 lbs heavier than natural weight at time)

    Tarver- Schooled Tarver who was champ at the time (didn't do anything since, was fighting old guys at time so form flattered him)


    De La Hoya- Hoya was out of his depth (too small - again)

    Joppy - past his best was a brutal beating (lost worse to Trinidad


    Felix Trinidad- for me still his defining win Trinidad was P4P ...destroyed Joppy ( anatural middleweight) so that destroys notion that he was a small guy (smaller guy again)


    Keith Holmes - unified championship (good win)


    Glenn Johnson- Hopkin sin his prime very agressive...the Old Bhop - (Johnson went on to lose his next 5 or so fights, including loss to Sheika who Calzaghe beat)



    10 World Champions..
     
  8. krishv123

    krishv123 Guest


    they are the facts