Jones Jr-Calzaghe-Hopkins

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KO-KING, May 24, 2011.


  1. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    Calzaghe was never elusive, never "bobbed and weaved", and never had a good defence. These are facts, go watch some Calzaghe on video and get back to me. :good
     
  2. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't bob and weave.
    He was Elusive and had a decent defence. You seem to think only the likes of Whittikar, mayweather, pep had a good defence- they had a great defence not good. Calzaghe had a good defence

    Its your opinion, not fact :nono
    I dispute your argument so do other's,

    Fact = Something that is indisputably the case.

    Go watch more than 5 calzaghe fights and get back to me
     
  3. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    I've seen every single one of Calzaghe's fights from Eubank onwards, his entire championship career. I think he had a weak, sloppy defence. He made up for it in other ways of course, but that doesn't change the fact that he had real deficiencies in his game.

    And by no conceivable definition of the word "elusive" was Joe Calzaghe elusive. He was always there to be hit. I would suggest that it's you who hasn't seen him fight, if you believe him to be "elusive". He never was. At all. In any way.
     
  4. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you put you and me on a poll of who's an idiot, most would vote for you as being the idiot. 'Fact'
     
  5. Kittikasem

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    “A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion”

    Ancient Chinese proverb.


    Quite fitting here, but could equally well be adapted for this context:

    "A wise man can see Joe Calzaghe was never an 'elusive' fighter, an ignorant fanboy doesn't understand this"

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  6. wvucheerjr

    wvucheerjr Active Member Full Member

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    I think when it comes to "skills" you have to put Hopkins first. Physical gifts (before he got old obviously) imo would have to go to Jones. Im going to be 100% honest. I haven't seen enough Calazaghe fights to really make an unbiased opinion. He beat Lacey (who an old Jones beat). He beat an old Jones that almost anyone could beat. The Hopkins fight I truly think he lost. Give Joe all the credit in the world for the Kessler fight though. Those are the only 4 I saw.
     
  7. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lacy was shot when he fought Jones, it was The Battle of Shot great vs Shot Contender. Lacy was never the same after calzaghe. I think joe won against BHop 114-113, was a neutral-unbiased score.
     
  8. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My post was more about you not knowing the meaning (or how to use) the word 'Fact'
     
  9. Kittikasem

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    I hold truths to be self-evident. Joe Calzaghe never bobbed and weaved in an elusive fashion. :good
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe didnt so much bob and but did weave, It wasnt really his style but the proof is on his face that he had a good defence as there is hardly a mark on him after 46 winning fights.
    Watch Calzaghe against Lacy and you will see he could be hard to hit cleanly even when in punching range.

    Now Popkins, what did Headbanger do to you that made you too ashamed to be known as Popkins :-(?
     
  11. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


    don't expect an answer, its entwined in the cowardly ***gots DNA to duck questions :rofl
     
  12. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have said he doesn't.
    But he could slip punches very well which made him Elusive.

    Since you like to do it in every single post
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  13. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Kittikasem is Popkins is he?
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It appears that way :lol:
     
  15. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you have to be one sad mother****er, to change names just to back up your points, Kitti you need a life:good