Jones Jr vs Calzaghe, analysis and predictions

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  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Attributes

    Jones Jr
    Height: 5'11
    Reach: 74"
    Age (as of fight): 39

    Calzaghe
    Height: 6'0
    Reach: 73"
    Age (as of fight): 36


    5 Keys for Calzaghe

    Workrate/Stamina
    Adapting during fight
    Good in Big Match situation
    Footwork
    Throw straighter, crisper punchers

    5 Keys for Roy Jones Jr

    Handspeed
    Power
    Must let the hands go
    Must trust the chin
    Must be able to roll with Calzaghe adapting

    Path for Calzaghe

    Revert to the older days of throwing harder punches early in the fight to back Jones Jr up and make him worry about the power.

    Be cautious about the handspeed Jones Jr possesses and utilise the jab early in the fight to find distance.

    Punish Jones Jr for showboating/ropeadope, apply pressure and force Jones Jr to fight the entire 12 rounds.

    Path for Jones Jr

    Train for speed, endurance and workrate.

    Be prepared to throw at least sixty punches a round.

    Sit in the pocket and wait for Joe to come in, attempt to hit with the counter.

    Trust instincts and handspeed, believe that you will be quicker than Joe and attempt to ruffle him early.

    Prediction:

    Only three years separate these two fighters, while Jones Jr has had the longer career, he's had less injury concerns than Joe Calzaghe.

    Jones Jr has also had a chance to correctly realign to this weight having come down from the HW fight, so could be back to condition he was prior to the Ruiz fight.

    If Jones Jr is faster, like I suspect he will be, he has to be willing to throw everything into the fight and while not matching the workrate of Calzaghe, ensure that he dominates workrate for at least a minute of every round.

    If Jones Jr can average 60-75 punches a round with a handspeed advantage and have the stamina to carry him through the 12 rounds, I like his chances.

    However, I feel Calzaghe's proven stamina, combined with Jones Jr not being in a serious threatening fight in his last few will give Calzaghe an edge, combined with the adaptability and better footwork at this point in their careers, I expect Calzaghe to win by UD12.

    Percentage Predictions:
    Joe UD12 - 45%
    Joe TKO/KO - 15%
    RJJ UD12 - 20%
    RJJ TKO/KO - 20%
     
  2. Dubstep

    Dubstep Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe to be surprised by RJJ early doors but then watch as he adapts as he did against Hopkins. The ultimate strategist will prevail by decision or a late stoppage having outworked a tired and ultimately mismatched opponent.
     
  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is a huge difference between...

    Being in your mid thirties, not far off your boxing prime; renowned for your sporting longetiveing.... to being near 40 years old and shot for years.

    There is a world of difference between a mid 30s man and a 40 yrs old; sporting wise.
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    This is going to be a very interseting fight ..I wonder what the punch stat numbers will be for this fight ?
     
  5. PopeJackson

    PopeJackson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe UD. Itd be nice if Jones won though as it'd help his legacy.. He is very shot thoughh
     
  6. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Jones ain't gonna throw a lot of punch in my opinion..
    but slappy will throw a lot of shitty slap, you can bet on it
     
  7. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Oh? Cause history tends to tell us, as well as recent results, that boxing prime is supposedly 25-32, with anyone past the age of 32 being "past their prime"

    Very few boxers can continue to compete at the top level past the age of 32, those that do are usually exceptional athletes and have been for their entire careers, much like Calzaghe and Jones Jr.

    Injuries take their toll, Joe has had a succession of hand injuries throughout the years where as Jones Jr has been relatively lucky with injury.

    Personally, age is not going to be a factor in this fight, had they met three years ago, I still believe you would come to the same result in the fight.

    Jones Jr, just having beaten prospects in Badi Ajamu and Hanshaw was able to easily beat Tito Trinidad, who is still younger than Calzaghe.

    So no, I don't see age as an issue and ultimately feel those that bring it up are looking for a scapegoat way of taking away any glory from Calzaghe.
     
  8. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Shot is Chris Byrd, losing to a prospect.

    RJJ beat two prospects and a come-backing Tito Trinidad, who despite being above the weight he should have been and out of the game for some time, is no soft challenge.
     
  9. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones mismatched against this ****?? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Yeah, right.
     
  10. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolute ****ing bollocks. Calzaghe has no mileage. Send slap-man up to heavyweight and have him fight Ruis then come back down again. Hell just have him do 12 rounds with Toney and he'd most likely be ****ed up permanently. Jones has done these things which is why he's the more worn out fighter.

    I notice you say 3 years ago too. Try 5-6 years ago and you'd see the slap-man demolished. Incredible lack of respect for just how good Jones was, but that's the Calzaghe huggers all over - "he beat the guy when he was 40, he'd have beaten him at 25 too"

    I'm just glad the internet wasn't around when Berbick beat Ali, personally.

    By the way, Tito Trinidads best weight was at least 3 weights below the weight he fought Jones at. You couldn't have made a more irrelevent observation.

    There is no glory in this fight for Calslappy, none. Same as the Hopkins fight but he just careers on regardless, protecting that 0....I just hope he gets his lights knocked out due to a bad misjudgement of opposition sometime soon. Maybe Jones will be the guy to do it.
     
  11. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    One other chance Jones has, is hoping the judges will be more impressed by the volume of his punches over Joe's work rate.... Ive always thought one jab that knocks a opponents head back is better than 3 jabs that flick the opponent in the face.
     
  12. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Calzaghe has no mileage?

    What planet are you on?

    Calzaghe vs Eubank.
    Calzaghe vs Reid.
    Calzaghe vs Salem (due to broken hand)
    Calzaghe vs Kessler
    Calzaghe vs Hopkins

    All of these fights can be considered "mileage" fights, where Joe got as good as he gave for the first half of the fight.

    Would you get the **** off of your high horse on Calzaghe? Your hatred of him makes you seem like a complete moron in this thread.

    Had they met when RJJ was 32-33? Yes, RJJ would have butchered Calzaghe, without a doubt.

    In fact, any version of Jones Jr from 160-175 (prior to 2002-2003) would have beaten Calzaghe, without a doubt.

    But from 2003-2004 onwards? No, Calzaghe and Jones Jr have been more equally matched than anyone wanted to admit too.

    Now, if you're going to bring the same **** into this thread that you did with your last post, **** off, you hateful son of a *****.
     
  13. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Yes, all top notch opponents at the top of their game when Calslappy hand picked them.

    **** you and take your insults and stuff them up your mothers ****, by the way :good
     
  14. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Who the **** cares if they were top notch?

    Were Tarver or Glen Johnson the best ever fighters that Jones Jr faced? No.

    Did they give him the most mileage? Yes.

    **** off you stupid bungle****er.
     
  15. Dubstep

    Dubstep Active Member Full Member

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    The point made here is referring to your bum comment about "mileage". These are examples of Calzaghe demonstrating mileage you Brummy tool*. I'd include Lacy in that list as well...it must be hard hitting someone so many times for 36 minutes!

    *All writing in bold has been stuffed up my mother's ****.