Jones-Ruiz was icing on the cake of a top 10 ATG boxer !

is any other ATG fighters best win against such terrible oppostion as john ruiz ?

 

Any person who truly respects fighting and watched RJJ in his prime knows without a shadow of a doubt the man was a absolute legend of the ring.

 

not disputing that at all, a fantasic fighter, unique . but its still john ruiz .

 

IMO, Roy is a top 20 of all-time fighter not quite a top 10, but I agree with your sentiments here. The win over Ruiz is unfairly maligned because people don't rate Ruiz. Well, Evander Holyfield didn't find him easy meat in the 2 years leading up to Ruiz-Jones, as Evander and Ruiz shared a win each and a draw in 3 fights. Nor did Hasim Rahman or Andrew Golota find him as easy right after the Jones fight, as Ruiz beat them both.

Roy's performance, giving away a minimum of 33lbs, was a masterclass. He is an All-Time Great in every sense of the word.

 

who was a legitimate top 10 heavy at that time.

he wasn't pretty to watch but he was effective and you're being way too dismissive if you don't understand the challenges of fighting at a weight you're not use to and fighting an accomplished fighter 30 pounds heavier than you.

that's why this has rarely been done.

 

i hope that was meant to be ironic.

 

Jones never dared to be great, now thats funny.

McCallum,Hill,Toney,Hopkins,Griffin twice countless top 10 fighters, moving up to Heavyweight to get apiece of the title. Come on if you dont like him you dont have to, but you gotta give him his due.

 

yes it was a great achievement. and yes it was still john ruiz. like i say i hope people arent saying its his best win 30 lbs or not because if it is a top 10 of all time rating is a joke.

 

Yea he aint top 10 atg. Top 30 maybe.

 

ruiz wasn't his best win but at the same time jones was a supreme talent who ruled a weak divison. that works against him.

i don't think it's unreasonable to have jones in anyone's top 20 at least since he destroyed any fighter who dared challenge him legitimiately at that time.

jones was an exceptional fighter - and when you train to box and people give you advice about how to counter someone else's boxing style, it's guys like jones who make this advice void.

 

Top10 ... yeah, whatever. atsch

 

Jones would have fought Lewis if he has balls and wanted to be great. He didn't, then ran from the heavyweight division with his tail between his legs.

 

Is that true Ruiz was not allowed (by Nady) to step closer than 3 feet away from Jones?