Jones v Hagler @ MW

he didn't even tickle hopkins' chin.. and he wouldn't hagler's either.

hagler, not tarver, would be the first to ko jones

 

People seem to think Hagler would be really aggressive and apply the pressure, but that wasn't his normal style. He was a methodical boxer. I'm wondering what style he would fight Roy in though. Would he indeed come right at Jones like he did against Hearns? That was a necessity due to Hearns's range and outside boxing skills, and the fact that he was most dangerous with his right hand at distance, not up close.

Another couple things to mention are Jones being a bigger guy but also relatively inexperienced at 160, especially against lefties compared to later. At 168 and 175, he fought a whole slew of southpaws. Not so at 160. That's another question mark for me in this matchup.

 

Most people remember Hagler from the Leonard fight or the fight prior to that with Mugabi, or the one before that Hearns. But Hagler wasn't prime for any of those fights. Haglers prime was between 78'79 to about 84' Prime Hagler had almost everthing over Prime Jones at Middle with exception of speed. I can see Jones maybe beating Hagler in a 12 rounder if he ran all 12 rounds. But to me that would be highly unlikely. Hagler would eventually catch him. and stop him.

 

It seems to me most see the logical outcome as either a win on points foe Jones or a TKO/KO fir Hagler, which given their attributes makes sense. It's a hard call. I became a boxing fan largely because of Hagler but l just can't see him beating the version of Jones who beat Tate unless he trapped him against the ropes, which is certainly possible. That said l don't think Jones' chin is as bad a critics claim it to be. I think age, a slowing of reflects, and coming down from heavy all affected his ability to both take a punch and just as importantly avoid a punch. So fwiw l'd pick Jones 60-40 meaning l would't call a Hagler win an upset, but it's not the most likely outcome.

 

Roy had a lot of attributes.

He was bigger, taller, heavier, faster, harder to hit due to ghis reat reflexes, and he possessed one punch knockout power in either hand.

I respect your opinion, but I don't think he'd have stopped Roy. I think Roy's speed would have caused him a world of trouble.

 

Roy goes to sleep in this one. so says the history of Roy taking his repeated naps

 

There's a clip of Lennox Lewis standing up to hard shots. Could such a clip be made of RJJ? Now I'm not sure he ever had much of a chin.

Against Hagler, that's a serious problem, because one of Marv's power shots was his right jab. With him, if you couldn't take a punch, you were screwed.

 

He will. Hagler had a 75 inch reach to go with that southpaw power jab he stepped into. Roy's reach is one inch less.

 

What do Roy's knockout losses at 35 plus, have to do with a MW fantasy fight against Marvin?

 

The question is:

Could Marvin have landed any power shots?

 

Do you really think a one inch reach advantage would have been a factor?

What about Roy's speed, power, and elusiveness?

 

If Hagler was a stereotypical southpaw with his power concentrated in his left, it would be a very different situation. Can he elude every right jab MMH shoots out over the championship distance? Look at Loucif Hamani. With Roy's chin, Hagler may need only one stunner to set up the kill.