Jones vs Calzaghe and Lacy

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    After the KD, Joe went after Roy.

    It's hard to go after a guy who is pressing the action against you.

    And as for the Hopkins KD. it was a flash KD, finished by a push. Mostly a balance issue.

    Joe was the agressor for the remainder of the round.

    In fact, after Joe got up at the count of three, Hopkins didn't even throw a punch for over forty seconds.
     
  2. Exposed

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    Lennox Lewis fought the fighters he needed to in order to be appreciated in the long run. Calzaghe did not. He was embarrassed against a 43 year old Hopkins (who many thought won) and refused to give him a rematch even on his own turf, and had the toughest time againsta shot Jones out of all his conquerors. This after almost a decade of fighting nobodies. He would rather retire with a questionable undefeated record at 36 years of age rather than fight on and likely lose, so it makes perfect sense for him to retire. Boxing historians however, will not be so forgiving.
     
  3. IrnBruMan

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    Lacy was the new, fast-rising star of the SMW division when Calzaghe fought him.

    He was rated top 3 by the Ring magazine at SMW, along with Kessler at #2 and Calzaghe at #1.

    Regardless of what he has gone on to achieve since, he was rated at the time, and Calzaghe destroyed him.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins and Toney predicted an easy win by KO for Lacy.

    Freddy Roach predicted a brutal KO for Lacy.


    None of those guys are on ESB or are part of HBO's hype machine.
     
  5. Exposed

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    Joe was definitely hurt, plain as day by his facial expression, and even admitted so. He fought tentatively for the rest of the round, I would hardly call that "aggressive". Do you need to the have first round video posted?
     
  6. IrnBruMan

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    You obviously only know what you've read.

    His flaws only became apparent in the Sheika fight when Sheika managed to wobble him off the ropes.

    Apart from that, Lacy was going through his opponents like a shower of ****, and he had some very respectable top 10 SMW names on his resume - Grant, Tsypko, Vanderpool, Sheika, Reid, Pemberton.
     
  7. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Oh, I know, and that's because you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  8. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    owned i think so :deal
     
  9. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I watched nearly all of them. What part of "supposed to be" and "appeared to be" do you not understand? He was touted as the new Tyson whether he deserved it or not. Same way Jermaine Taylor was touted.
     
  10. IrnBruMan

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    How many 'world beaters' are on Hopkins' resume?

    On RJJs?

    On PBFs?

    And so on...:think
     
  11. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hurt by a forearm. How does this somehow expose a flaw in Calzaghe? It was an illegal punch- not even a punch. Obviously Roy did not mean to hit him with his forearm, he's a good sport and a professional. But absent the illegal blow, Roy barely hit Calzaghe the whole fight.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Joe was clearly hurt and 'fought tentatively' why did he press the action against Hopkins?

    And what does it say about Hopkins if he retreated from a 'clearly hurt' fighter and fail to even THROW a punch for forty three seconds after the KD ?
     
  13. rccwilliams

    rccwilliams Sippin' on some sizzurp Full Member

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    Nope, why on earth would i when i could just leave you to say im clueless from the start.:lol:

    Its much quicker this way.
     
  14. IrnBruMan

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    You're just full of **** and hot air mate - you can't back your statements up with anything, so you resort to falling back on cliches and then when questioned on them, you start playing 'what you say is what you are'

    You obviously don't know what you're talking about, and have indicated this several times with your lack of knowledge around Jeff Lacy's hype pre-Calzaghe and the fact that you were only able to cite the Sheika fight as one where Lacy's 'glaring weaknesses' were apparent, despite claiming they were apparent in many fights prior to the Calzaghe one.

    Go back to school kid :yep
     
  15. Imperial1

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    Joe just poses a problem for anyone ..Who knows if Jones could ever bounce back against a fighter the likes of Joe Calzaghe but I would have loved to see it ..Lets hope that blemish just gives him that one last wake up call ..What the status of the Green fight ??