Jones vs Hagler at 160 pounds

roy jones split decision his agility and speed would win him the fight

 

I agree. It wouldn't be a blowout by any stretch, but people forget just how fast and explosive Roy was in his prime.

 

RJJ Ud

 

Hagler by UD
Roy really didn't have a prime at MW. His best work was done as a SM
Hagler was basicly a monster at MW and Roy would not cope with the pressure(probally wrong spelling, english is not my native tongue).
Iron chin, destruct and destroy mode and massive willpower would be enough for the "Marvellous"one

 

Jones by easy decision. His speed, in and out movement, angles, handspeed and power would make Hagler confused and reluctant to engage. Whatever people say about him being past his prime, Leonard wasn't in his prime either and at a new weight for himself, Hagler blew it big.

 

I dont know... Tough fight. I would favor Hagler by a little.

 

I also heard that in de 70's or 80's Hagler beat a Roy Jones.
Crazy coinsidence

 

I've always felt that 160 lb. Roy Jones could beat Hagler, but not Monzon. Jones had amazing speed and reflexes at 160 and prob. wouldn't take any chances against Hagler. Hagler always got stronger as the fight went on but being such a slow starter in many fights (minus the Hearns fight, ofcourse) Roy could build up a decent lead, say win the first 4 and than he'd only have to win 3 of the last 8, something I believe Roy could do.

 

Serious...

Jones would be way to fast and slick for Hagler. If an aging SRL managed to outbox him, Roy would do the same only better.

 

Monzon is so conventional. Roy would box his ears off. Monzon would have never seen anything like ROy Jones before. It would be a mis match.

 

Are you serious when you say SRL outboxed Hagler ? He was barely standing at the end of the fight, tired as hell and avoiding Hagler all night long...
Not the true definition of out boxing.

 

Well what did he do then.... Out brawl him.

He boxed him FFS. I never said it was a shut out.

I just think Roy would give EVERYONE problems due to his awkward style. The angles and the way he leaped in with combinations would be too much for most guys, as it would be something they would have never seen or fought against before.

Like the Toney fight who was just bamboozled by Roy.

I have been watching his career again and the guy in his prime was a freak... He just toyed with people it was sick. If truely challenged I have no doubt Roy could have easily stepped it up a notch. Most times I believe it was just too easy for him, and he didn't fight to his potential.

 

Well, Roy Jones would trouble any boxer from any era. No doubt about that.

 

Monzon was a very big middle-weigh at 6' and his reach at 77". Carlos always fought ata avery consistent pace subtly moving his opponent backwards and measuring distance with the jab. Monzon's jab was said to be very heavy andd I believe he would use it to keep Jones out of range and avoid Roys left hooks and right hands. It can also be argued that Monzon was the best middleweight at adjusting to styles and IMO without a doubt the greatest at finding holes in other opponents styles while in the ring. Monzon had a dynamite right hand and a very underrated left hook as well as very good, if not great defense. Jones would have to press the action to get in range against Carlos and it's very possible that the right hand of Monzon would catch Jones coming in. Monzon fought excellent competition beating Benevenuti twice, Valdez twice, Napoles, Briscoe and and Emile Griffith twice, granted Emile was perhaps past his best. Monzon was down once in his career in his last fight against Valdez at age 36 (i believe) so I dont beleieve Jones would even dent, let alone crack CM's anvil- like chin. Jones wins the early rounds, Monzon adjusts and drops Jones thusly winning a UD in 12, probably taking jones out if the fight goes 15. Carlos was far from conventional, he had a lot of subtleties in his game that seperates him from the greats.

It's easy to say that Monzon has never seen a Roy Jones, but has Roy Jones ever seen a complete fighter like Monzon.......i think not.

 

Jones would have fought a tonne of guys who fight like Monzon, although obviously not as good. Roy punches from so many different angles I have trouble believing anyone could adapt. He would counter Monzon with left hooks off Monzons jab, and would use his movement and combinations to confuse him.

Roy would be too fast for Monzon IMO. I have only seen a couple of Monzon fights i will admit, but from what I saw he was too slow, and couldn't offer anything to beat Roy that he hadn't seen before.

Roy would be in and out with combinations before Monzon knew what hit him. I just can't see Monzon troubling prime Roy.

From prior experience with theoretical match ups, and to save a long winded arguement, I will agree to disagree. I can see the point you are trying to make about Monzons style I just don't agree with it.