Jones vs Hopkins II help Calzaghe

I smoke roll ups since you ask. Three names, yes. His level of opposition was pretty poor.

 

Neither result will help calzaghe, rather it shows calzaghe fought some old men and degrades his legacy.

 

This is purely about Bhop and Jones. of late too many pathetic and lame threads have come about calzaghe. Desperate attempts for attention comparing him from heavyweights to flyweights. He was crap, protected and boring, he doesn't have a legacy and will never be admired by real boxing fans. Glad he's retired, boxing doesn't miss him so get over it.

 

Some quality logic here. Now, if I'm following you correctly, your argument is this: when Hopkins fought Wright, Tarver and Pavlik they were all favoured to beat him because people thought Hopkins was shot. Despite the fact that Hopkins proved them wrong on all three occasions and not only beat but beat comfortably/dominated all three we still must conclude that he is shot because people thought he was shot beforehand and made him underdog.

This is laughable. Not just to a person of average intelligence. ******s are pointing and laughing at you right now.

 

tHIS FIGHT WONT GO AHEAD ONCE RJJ IS KO'D BY DANNY GREEN:deal
Rjj made a huge mistake taking this fight,although the 4 mil he's making for the fight should ease the pain:hey
I guess if Danny beats a 40yro rjj that makes him a ATG....
Oh thats right only pommy fighters are made ATG's after beating washed up fighters

 

Actually, anyone who really thinks a dossier of Jones and Hopkins, at a combined age of 83 years, holds anything stronger than the consistency of swiss cheese, is truly oblivious to this sport, and athleticism in general.

 

I totally agree with this entire post. Green will probably knock Jones' block off, but of course Calzaghe fans will say Joe ruined him first.

 

What happens to guys that lose after the loss doesn't affect the guy that beat them. This is like saying Ali's wins over Frazier and Norton are garbage because Foreman knocked both out quick.

It might help the winner in some ways depending on situation, that I can't disagree with but the position these guys are in now DOESN'T help Calzaghe. Calzaghe fought both when they were past their best, that can't be overlooked.

 

If a ****** like you points and laughs I'm not bothered, I take it as a compliment.

Yes my case remains the same and if you go back and look into predictions from experts in the sport the first thing they bring up is "Hopkins is old, that will affect him a lot". They did it when he fought Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe and Pavlik. Hey, they even did it when Jones was going in against Calzaghe and even Jones and Calzaghe BOTH agreed with video exposing that.

This sport is based on age, it's a young man's sport. The younger you are going in the sport the brighter the future. There's a reason most of the top fighters admit they started at age 7 or 9, there are some guys that started at age 5, look into it.

In a brutal violent sport like this, the young man shines and gets all the offers, sponsorship and support. It doesn't matter how bad Hopkins beats opponents they will still pick against him if he fights a younger well advertised or hyped opponent because of his age.

Do you want to tell me they picked Wright, Tarver and Pavlik over him based on skill?, if so then continue laughing all the way to the nearest pub where you belong.

 

Honestly,with all due respect-think seriously and logically about this one-how can Calzaghe be considered anywhere near an ATG at lightheavyweight when he only had 2 fights in that division ,against 2 40+ fighters-one past it and the other shot.Plus,he couldn't even ko Jones at that weight.I mean JONES' resume at lightheavy isn't that great,but it's still better than JC's at 175.Saying JC was a great fighter is legitimate.But an ATG lightheavy?Stop,please.You may be a big JC fan,but show some logic and intelligence,please.

 

I have never said that Calzaghe wasn't a great fighter,but no,it would not be fair to say that Calzaghe beat 2 ATG lightheavyweights.Neither Jones nor Hopkins can be considered ATG lightheavyweights.There is nothing in either one's resume that would indicate that.****ing absolutely nothing.With all due respect,what the **** are you talking about?And besides,can you please admit that Jones was shot when he fought JC?Calzaghe himself wrote that years before in his autobiography.And what about when Hopkins lost TWICE to Taylor years before he fought Calzaghe.Please stop being illogical.

 

You stupid,stupid ****ing ignoramous.First off you beyond stupid ****.I don't hate Calzaghe.But he lied about Jones being shot you clueless mother****er.You don't believe me-****ing ******* read JC's own autobiography if you want to know the truth.But after reading your brainless comments,it's obvious that you don't.He wrote it down in his own words you *******.Second,logically speaking,but that's too much for you 2 understand because you're clueless,how would Hopkins be ranked in the top 5 when he's 4-3 in his last 7 fights and hasn't fought since he fought Pavlik.You are a mentally limited *******.

 

I constantly give Calzaghe credit for beating Kessler,presently the best supermiddleweight in the world in my opinion.I also constantly admit that JC was a great fighter.Before he lied about Jones,I was a big fan of Calzaghe's.But if you believe that Jones isn't shot,you're deluding yourself.Jones has done nothing in the past 6 years to disprove that.****ing absolutely nothing.In fact,if you could present me with proof that I'm wrong,I would gladly retract my statements.You can't,because there are none of those "facts".In fact,Calzaghe admitted that Jones was shot in his autobiography which was published years before Joe and Jones fought.

 

Hell, look at the vid posted earlier in the tread RIGHT BEFORE THE HOPKINS FIGHT where he tells reporters Jones is done.
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You are an ******* that knows nothing about about boxing.If those "experts" want to give credit to someone that hasn't fought in a year,has a record of 4-3 in his last 7 fights and beat someone that now is considered a limited overrated fellow that not only has a shot reputation,but doesn't want to fight anymore,then you and those "panelists" need to look at your own judgement.And just one more ****ing thing,you clueless cocksucker.You didn't respond to what I wrote,****.How the **** are you,you useless,braindead piece of ****,going to explain Calzaghe's claim in his autobiography that Jones was shot,then flipflop when the fight was signed,****face?Explain it,****!