Jones vs. Toney = Pacquiao vs. Mayweather?

Floyd and Pac are near equal athletically in comparison to Jones and Toney. Plus Floyd won't be cutting 30+ lbs in training. Weight drained or not that much weight loss had to have had an impact on Toney.

I think the fight may look like a faster paced, less foul and clinch filled version of Calzaghe vs Hopkins:

Southpaw volume puncher using a lot of angles vs Defensively superior counter puncher who likes to lead with the right hand. Differences are Floyd has a better jab and uses it much more than B-Hop and has better stamina, while not having as good a chin as B-Hop and is more susceptible to jabs himself. Also p4p Pac hits harder than Joe C and maybe a better chin but probably has less stamina. There also is no big difference in hand and foot speed as there were between B-Hop and Joe C.

I expect a competitive split decision in Mayweather's favour that with Pacquaio supporters claiming greater activity should have won and Mayweather fans pointing out superior punch landed stats.

 

Jesus Christ, you really don't get it do you?

Both Jones and Toney had EDUCATED footwork in comparison to Paci - OW. Neither of them ever got their feet tangled up fighting guys with the opposite stance to them the way Paci-OW does. Where the fuk do you get this idea his footwork is either extremely good or quick?

 

Dont bother with Fandango, he's a bonafied turd!:deal

 

What are you babbling about? The only stupid people on this board, are people like you, who only agenda is make Pac's nut shine!

The only comparable similarity between,Floyd and Tony notice I said "similarity"(singular) not "similarities"(plural) is they both employ their own versions of the should roll, notice i said "their version of the shoulder roll" (meaning they use it totally different from each other) and that where the comparison end abruptly, after that nothing is the same !

Tony good boxer, horrible conditioning, bad habits out side the gym. Not know for speed

Floyd good boxer, stays in shape year round never get above 5 pounds outside 147. Know as a fighter with fast hands and feet.

Roy good boxer, stays in shape, speed, orthodox fighter, dose NOT throw a lot of punches.

Pac good boxer, stays in shape, speed, south paws, throws a lot of punches.

the little deference your trying to shadow between these 4 fighters are general at best.

You make general similarities between Floyd vs Judah and Jones vs Tony fight, but in reality there is nothing there, all these guys are very different in talent.
As a pac fan I see what your doing, your trying to reassure yourself that your hero "pac" will have a guaranteed victorious on May 2and, I see nothing wrong with that, a little desperate on you part, but its all good. I personally think he (Pac) is going to get beat, we will see.

Also, you don't know **** about boxing..

 

Roy did throw a lot of punches against Toney (at least for that weight class). The thread starter does make a decent point in that both Jones and Pac make/made use of an angular attack. Also, due to Floyd's defensive stance, tendencies, and age might be vulnerable to be being turned.

 

Yet he was pfp king for 10 years.

I've told you before Wandi, you belong in the kitchen.

 

Probably been mentioned already, but the biggest difference in the styles is that Toney was always a bit flat-footed and immobile.
Mayweather, even now, has some wheels on him.

 

Roy throws no where near as many punches as pac. Roys has always been selective whit his shots.

second how is it that all fan keep forgetting pac is 36, not 26! Yes when roy was 24 he was a world win, but as he aged the reduction is speed was quite noticeable.

 

Roy threw above the division average against toney in their fight. I didn't say they were equal, but to suggest Roy didn't throw many punches in that fight is ludicrous.

Manny might not be as fleet of foot as before, but he still uses his feet in an attempt to implement his angular attack. BTW, Floyd has aged as well so things might level off in that department.

I'm not saying that Manny's going to win ( I'm not even a Manny fan like that), but it's not a stretch to suggest his footspeed/footwork can present problems to Floyd.

 

But Floyd hasn't fought any fast fighters other than Judah.

 

Floyd vs Pac is going to look more like Jones Jr. vs Hopkins II, two old men who've seen better days, or like Rigondeaux vs Donaire, a bit of a running snooze fest.

 

Nein!

 

I think you are right. He appears to be totally clueless. I think he has only ever watched Paci-OW fight, because the fool seems to think that ONLY Marquez stands on other fighters feet. He also obviously has selective eyesight, because Paci - OW often steps on orthodox fighters feet because his footwork is fuk all to write home about.

He doesn't even appear to understand that the first thing any decent trainer will tell you is " when fighting a guy with the opposite stance to you, ALWAYS try to keep your lead foot, outside of his "