Jorge Barrios Was Not Whooopin Juarez !!!

The HBO announcers criticized the one judge who had it 96-92 Juarez.....but thats exactly how I had it!

96-92 seems like a large margin to give Juarez, but without the deductions, its really 96-94.....in rounds 6-4 Juarez.

I thought Juarez' shots were just better quality.....crisper and just more effective.

One thing I did agree with the commentators about Juarez....he's afraid to let shots go, unless he's got perfect position.
Rocky has'nt learned that sometimes you have to throw shots when the opening is not there, just to create opportunities.

.....unless the shot is there clear as day for Rocky to take, Rocky is just not letting his hands flow, where I thought he could have done more of vs Barrios who's really slow of both hand and foot.

 

I agree....Juarez really didn't eat too many clean shots...he was defensively sount. With that said he has a problem with pulling the trigger. I think LL had it right....the dude is a anaylitical fighter. He is thinking WAAAY to much and waiting for the absolute right opportunity to fight or throw a punch or even counter. He should be less cautious and fight re-actively rather than with too much thought. IN his case he'd still be weary enough to avoid anything too serious and be able to get off with his own offense.

The cards were jacked with both fights on Saturday but if the fight went the distance and Rocky got the nod even with the 2 points I'd say it was a robbery.....just b/c Rock couldn't make much of a claim of doing anyting other than blocking shots and throwing the occasional right......the jab was scoring but not enough to win him any rounds...it just wasn't enough at all.

 

Quality vs Quantity! Quaitly offense was definitey on Rocks Side...but with the judges you could hear and see the frustration. Rock just wasn't pulling the trigger.

All of us SAW with our own eyes that Rock has it in him to outclass and dominate (when he throws) but he'd rather wait and be sure he'll land rather than throwing and create openings. I think he's more afraid of missing than getting KO'd. Or so it seems.

 

That was wild!

 

Barrios wasnt whooping Juarez but he was definitely winning the fight up until the stoppage.

 

I had Barrios ahead as well. As for the commentators, Bob Poppa was more on Juarez' nuts more than Barrios' at the beginning of the fight but as Barrios kept pressing the action he switched over.

the real travesty was the ref. I didn't know that you're not allowed hitting a hometown fighter to the body

 

Towards the end they didn't, but Barrios has some heavy hands. They look slow, but they are felt by the recipients. Rocky said that's why he was so cautious, but contradicted himself by stating that his punches didn't have the effect they did early on, then turned around and said he was still weary of Barrios's power...either way it was a legit win and Rock heated up late (a bit too late) and was able to start taking control of the fight. He really didn't have control until the last 2 rounds when Barrios really looked exhausted. He was fighting with his mouth wide the **** open which is how his lip got mangled.

 

WOW! I mean.....That's a pretty bad score card D. I agree with the who Quaity over quantity...but there is a line that has to be drawn when using this term. Had Rock been more active, even while throwing far less than Barrios I could see your point....but there were rounds where Rocky only landed 2 or 3 punches that were quality and sometimes there were none due to his in-activeness. YOu have to punch to win rounds and 1 or 2 punches that sound hard and look painful won't win rounds with a guy who is pushing you back and smothering you with his own offense....even if it's not landing at a great percentage. There was just too little offense comming from Rocky to give him more than 3 rounds. Even with the rounds where he got an extra point for the "Low Blows" he still didn't win those rounds.

 

In a case like Barrios who was thowing alot of punches that were'nt finding the mark, I'd usually side with a busy fighter like Barrios over a boxer who was just peppering back and not thowing shots with leverage that are effective......
......this was a case however that Juarez really did more than what the commentating crew let on.....
.....Rocky's jab imo was piston like accurate, and it was more than a peppering jab, Rocky used it as a power jab. Juarez' jab was snapping Barrios' head back, which I felt was more effective that the multi-punch shots thrown but few landing by Barrios.
.....and when Juarez threw the right hand, he was finding the mark with it.

I had it 6-4 in rounds in favor of Juarez, but I can see where someone could have scored it 6-4 the other way.
I have two particular rounds noted on my scorecard that I gave to Juarez that I tabbed as very close rounds, rounds 6 and 8, which I gave to Juarez for the reasons I stated above......I thought that Juarez' accurate shots in those rounds did more damage than Barrios' connects.

Btw, did anybody notice that Barrios hurt Juarez in round 5 (I thought pretty significantly) but Barrios did'nt sense that he had Juarez in a state of hurt?
Juarez' legs were unsteady during the latter part of that round, but Barrios did'nt notice to take advantage.

 

At least Barrios still had headshots. Reid wasn't allowed any sort of offensive work against Ottke.

At first I had Barrios winning the fight a lot to a little (round wise) but rewatching it the scorecard tightens up a bit.

 

I see what you are saying.......I'm just having a hard time changing my stance on what I saw.....And that was a very hesitant Rocky. Yes the jab was working consistantly and it was a good tool, but the jab was suppose to set up his offense...NOT be his offense.

When Rock would work the jab and let loose combos they'd land every time, but then after he landed a two or three punch combo he went back to covering up, picking off shots ect and began to wait for the next perfect opportunity to land a right hand or hook to the body.

But YES....Rock with out questions..WHEN on the offenseive he was the more accurate and did more damage....but to me it looked like a "Lazy" preformance. I did notice that Rock was buzzed in the 5th as well...but he recovered quickly.

I'm gonna have to re-watch the fight again to make sure I wasn't influenced by the commentation by the HBO Crew...but I was very heated with Rock during his fight......I was yelling at him to throw something on more than a few occasions.

 

I don't like Juarez style either, he may have skill but always too afraid to get hit. Maybe he has glass chin and too careful he might easily kiss the canvass, I even saw him wobbled by Barrios in one round. Too lucky for Rocky that Barrios handspeed were too heavy and slow to combine.

 

Juarez ain't got a glass chin,he's chin is good,he had fights were he was hit flush and didn't go down,he is all heart and has good skills

 

Right and Barrios hit him a couple of times good too not to mention he went the distance with Marquez being cut bad and having the eye problems