Jorge Paez

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ............I never liked this guy when he was in his prime. I don't like showboats, but in time I had to acknowledge that Jorge Paez had a lot going for him.

    I would never call him a great fighter; he raely dominated his fights, and one could argue that he lost both his fights with Troy Dorsey and had a few close calls along the way.

    Paez, for those who have never seen him, was Jorge Arce, but more interesting and perhaps a bit less power. He'd shave crazy designs and words into his hair for his fights (even once having "Safe Sex" shaved into the back of his scalp and proceeded to toss packets of condoms to the crowd before one fight).......he'd do all kinds of acrobatics in the ring before and after bouts, having been a circus acrobat before he took up boxing full-time. He showboated, mugged for the crowd and the camera, would lay on the ropes and sometimes fight lazily.

    But he was good enough to twice best Calvin Grove, defended against Stevie Cruz, Louie Espinoza twice, Toy Dorsey twice, and beat Tracy Spann at lightweight in a thrilling fight when he moved up to 135.

    Here's a clip of the Grove rematch, to give just a small taste of what he was all about.

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    Any thoughts on this circus performer turned world champ?
     
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  2. salsanchezfan

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    :(


    ..........Please acknowledge Jorge Paez!
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    He was ordinarily a man whom I saw as the main event on a less prestigious card. I agree that he was a very good fighter, and probably underrated for his day. His battles with Louie espinoza, Calvin Grove and Cruz were very good fights. He was active for much of the late 80's and early 90's, plus fought most of the best men out there who were available.

    A former circus clown, Paez was unique. He had an image and a way of drawing attention to himself like no other. I'm with you Salsanchez, in that I never cared for the guy much either, but he definately made a name for himself in a most creative fashion..
     
  4. salsanchezfan

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  5. RafaelGonzal

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    I loved his outrageousness and the acrobatic flips and the way he moved his body in the ring. Ever the acrobat he could fight good too, long live El Maromero!!
     
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  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet a second ago you write that Whitaker did nothing for you. How about his acrobatics? I suppose the difference is Whitaker did his WHILST fighting, not as a clown side show. Oh and he also did his against all the latinos, which must not have been fun when you tuned in to barrack for them :good
     
  7. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought they robbed Grove in the first bout-I had Grove WAY UP going into the 15th round with Paez needing a ko to win.Knocked
    Grove down 3 times and won-BS decsion.
     
  8. salsanchezfan

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    ...........I thought so too; I stayed up till like midnight to watch that fight on some obscure cable station and faded in and out a bit, but what I saw made me think Paez needed a K.O.

    His fault for going to Mexico, I guess.
     
  9. Chinxkid

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    I'd forgotten he was a circus clown, but now i remember thinking, 'that explains it.' His redeeming quality I thought was he was a tough sonofabitch, a fast busy guy with some skills, who had no problem mixing it up as much as his opponent was of a mind to, and I never got any feeling at all that he was lacking in belly. Certainly not a great, but better than he's remembered, if he's remembered at all.
     
  10. RafaelGonzal

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    I guy was being a zany and crazy clown in the guise of a good fighter the other was an arrogant, cocky, dick in the guise of a great fighter.
     
  11. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've always thought Paez could've been a champion for much longer if he had taken care of himself. He would balloon in weight after every fight, then have to shed it all fast when he went back into training. He was able to get away with it for a short while, but it ruined his body and IMO he never really was the same after that. By the time of his fights with Dorsey, he was already past his peak IMO.

    At his best, Paez was very impressive IMO. He had quick hands, good reflexes, deceptively good defense and technical skill, and solid punching power in both hands. He won his title from a good champion in Calvin Grove and successfully defended against solid contenders/ex-champions in Louie Espinoza and Steve Cruz. Ironically, I thought one of his most impressive performances came in his first fight with Espinoza, even though he only got a draw (a very questionable decision in my eyes, as I had Paez winning almost every round). I was more impressed with Paez at this time than I was with his co-titlist Esparagozza, and I would've liked to have seen a unification fight between them.
     
  12. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good fighter, had incredible balance from being in the Circus. He could bend at the waist and avoid punches & come back with a quick combo. When he applied himself. he fought very hard. & threw hard punches. But he used to clown around alot, before, after & sometimes during a fight! And he used to chase the ring card girls around!
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Well said. The ring remembers Paez. Switching gears, who is that cut man with all those stickers on his face?
     
  14. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's Chuck Bodak. One of the best Cut Men in the buisness.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Ah. Any photo's of him?