Jose Luis Lopez vs Antonio Margarito

It's a close fight, but I think Margarito's height, length and strength give Lopez trouble. A taller James Page troubled and beat Lopez, even though he was dropped twice. Margarito is better than Page.

It would be a tough fight but I'd go with Margarito by UD.

 

Lopez would become intimidated and get his ass outworked, after which certain people would say "He wasn't focused for this fight".

 

El Maestrito focused would have given Margarito Problems....its a shame that he threw it away. I hear he is training fighters now.

 

...I don't know and nobody can accurately guess because Margarito's entire career is tainted with the suspicion of loaded gloves. I don't know what's real with him. We don't know. Did he load when he brutalized Cintron? Cotto? Did he load against Williams and still lose? I won't pretend Margarito didn't have redeeming features like some have since the gloves. Features that didn't have to do with punching but still, I don't know how you can make a real guess on this man.

 

you probably only saw Lopez at his worst. It wasnt that he was intimidated he was just lazy in the ring and out of the ring. A real wasted talent.

What did he have to be intimidated about:huh He had one of the best chins ive ever seen and hit like a mule on steroids. The only reason Quartey was ever winning the fight was cause Lopez held back and didnt do ****. Once he let loose he had Quartey wobbling all over the ring and dropped him twice. Had he let loose earlier he surely would have kod the Durable Quartey.

Check out Lopez fight with a Prime Yori Boy he looked pretty awesome and ate Campas best shots like nothing. He repeatdly hurt Campas everytime he landed clean on him. Something ive never seen anyone do to Yori boy his punches had a worst effect on Yori Boy than anything Trinidad landed on him. For one shot id say Lopez definitly hit harder than Tito or any Welter in that era.

The Lopez that fought Page would get out worked by Margo and lose a decision

The one that beat Yori Boy would probably stop the iron chinned Margo.

The one that fought Quartey would be even money with Margarito maybe Margo wins a close decision.

You never knew which Lopez you were gonna get.

 

Ive watched Margarito since early in his career ive seen him live when he was a prospect and up and coming and he always hit hard, and I highly doubt that he was loading his gloves since he was fighting 6 and 8 rounders. I also dont think this whole plaster of Paris is overexaggerated, he had something but i dont think it made the difference everyone is saying. Im sure he will still be hitting hard when he comes back.

 

I've seen Margo fighting way before he was a name also. And of course I think it would be batty to think that he was just loading up for every low level fight he had or even all his big fights and not getting caught. But I think you have to be somewhat suspicious at least of his more recent big fights. Would he be loading just for Shane and not Paul, Miguel and Kermit? None stopped prior to meeting him and all big fights?

Off of those bigger fights, remember the bizarre and grotesque injury to the ear of Lujan? Not a megafight by any means but remember it? Or the fact he's the only guy to stop Sergio Martinez to this day? Is he a bigger hitter than Mosley? Margarito brutalized Cotto (incidentally, I did pick Tony to win that fight) but it looked like he begun the damage to me with grazing shots that mostly started to land circa round 6 or 7 before the real flush pummeling began. Mosley hit Cotto with flush shots from the opening bell and all night and Cotto didn't seem to really be in trouble at any time, though I think he was a little stunned here and there (Cotto has a good poker face I think) and yet his face didn't look like he'd been it by a truck a la the Margo fight. Or the rumblings of damage Margo did to sparring partners and rumors they wrapped his hands "specially" in the gym too. Regardless-

My non-punching power analysis of him, that I think is fair:

Margo has:

Elite level stamina
World class chin
A very substandard defense unless you count the FBT(facial blocking technique)
High offensive intelligence- seems adept at finding good shots even though I always thought he was a touch slow for being world class. I rarely have seen him miss an opportunity to crack you with a left uppercut whenever you start to crouch forward and open up to it. He finds the body shots like a pro too.
The aforementioned sluggish speed for a world champion
Elite level will - when the going gets tough, he always seemed like he wanted to step it up whenever I've seen him. Even if he could start very slowly at times.

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Close fight, both guys face first offensive fighters. Lopez has great power, Margaritos size and workrate probably better than Lopez, but good close fight.

 

I was thinking about Lopez while posting in the forgotten top contenders thread. He was a forgotten champion, but it was his own fault. Although, I felt that Quartey was put down because he was fatigued, there is no doubting Lopez' power. I don't think he would have ko'd Quartey, but he could have beaten him. Lopez had everything needed to be a true Mexican great except the work ethic. He was lazy and he squandered his career away. I wish I knew why. Margarito is Margarito, a limited, but relentless fighter who has maxxed out on his potential.
A motivated Lopez could beat Margo, but he's like a box of holiday chocolates: you never know what you're gonna get.

 

I can't see anyone w/ Lopez' style BEATING THE HELL out of margarito. Mosely is an exception because of the style and greatness. Lopez was lazy in the ring genereally and Margo was a windmill. Margo.'s busier style wins here.:deal

 

I agree entirely. His ability to walk thru punches was as much to do w/ victory along with his unbelieveable volume. A lot of guys just quit when he wouldn't stop coming or wouldn't acknowledge their shots. You could SEE Cotto getting worried then terrified as Tony kept coming. As for the coward Cintron......:gayfight

 

Mosley hasn't been great for near enough a decade.

 

what I saw in both the Cotto and Mosely fights is this. Watch the first round of each. W/ Cotto, there is a point in the 1st, where Tony hits him a left hook to the body and Cotto actually looks in pain and hurt. This started him on his marathon around the perimiter of the ring. In the Mosely fight, after landing the first rt. hand or so, Shane hits Tony a wallop of a bodyshot that I think hurt him badly. Just like he (Tony) did against Cotto. I think Tony was hurt and kind of leary from that moment on just like Cotto against him. If Shane gets to mayw. body, I think the fight will turn in his favor. Also, I look forward to seeing Tony fight again and hope he has something left in his chin and resolve. But, he took a ferocious beating and I don't think they come back the same from that kind of loss.:vikingI hope so though.

 

Give me a break. He was great prior to 2000 against the likes of John Brown, James Leija, and Phillip Holiday????? All of his best wins have come in the last decade.