Jose Mantequilla Napoles vs Jose Pipno Cuevas, 15 rounds, 147 lbs, both prime.

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Jose Mantequilla Napoles vs Jose Pipino Cuevas, 15 rounds, 147 lbs, both prime. Does Napoles outslick Cuevas to victory? Or does Cuevas end this fantasy bout with one blow?
     
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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Have to imagine Napoles would take a majority of the fights but prime Cuevas could take and dish out hellish punishment. It would only take one of those left hooks to change the trajectory of the match.
     
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  3. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I'm quite sure that the high majority of respondents to this thread will be picking Napoles to win. I count myself amongst that group. Cuevas had skills but Mantequilla was way too good. Napoles by 11th round stoppage in a fifteen round fight.
     
  4. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Napoles. Easy work.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have to go with Jose the Butterboy over Jose the Cucumber here, but with the caveat that Pipino has two distinct and not altogether unlikely ways to pull it out — Napoles was prone to cuts and opposing jaws were prone to getting snapped like twigs when Cuevas’ left hook hit home.

    So I’ll go with about 70 percent confidence in my Napoles pick.
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    You know Jose The Cucumber lives in a cave too Saintpat, his full name reflects it, Cuevas in Spanish means Cave. Ha Ha.
     
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  7. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jose Napoles as great as he was at the weight, was smallish at welterweight.
    Cuevas, though that weight class fit like a glove, and after a loss to A.Price in 1976 ( Don't know how that happened) he wouldn't lose again until 1980.
    Unlike today's fighters who fight maybe once or twice a year, he averaged about four fights a year in that time span. Obliterating damn near everyone he fought.
    This is not as clear cut a victory as some may think for Napoles, and he'd be literally walking through a minefield fighting Cuevas.
    I'll lean towards a Napoles victory because his skill level was top 8 or 9 in the history of the division.
    But one misstep from him, and he gets a cut that's so severe the fight has to be stopped. ( See his fight against Backus, now imagine the damage Cuevas could possibly do)
    Or he's lunched into the stratosphere by a Cuevas bomb, with no reason for a 10 count.
     
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  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Really good post, very detailed on the potential possibilities of a fantastic dream bout.
     
  9. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Naples UD 15 Cuevas.
     
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  10. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another big big factor--to me anyway---was the speed of that left hook Cuevas threw. It sizzled. Now his right hand technique and speed was not that good.....kind of like Joe Frazier in that regard. But that left hook.......better than Trinidad's even.

    But that left hook sizzled and was extremely damaging. And he threw it from way on the outside and does not translate to him having to get on the inside to launch it. In this matchup, I think that would very very important and gives Cuevas a real shot at winning the bout. And he could easily be behind 7 rounds to 2 or something and pull out the W.

    In a 3 fight series--it is a 2-1 thing and not a 3-0.
     
  11. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Id like to add that Pipino's two ways of winning also came in two ways: a left and a right.

    But Napoles takes this IMO
     
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  12. Kid Bacon

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    I go with the consensus here: Mantequilla should win by UD.

    However that is not going to be a walk in the park. Mantequilla would have to be 100% focused.
    One slip, one distraction, one miscalculation, and Pipino's hook would go through Mantequilla's jaw just like a hot knife through butter (pun intended).
     
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  13. Romero

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    I’d never bet against the old master.
     
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  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Napoles was as slick as butter like his nickname indicates.
     
  15. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    He was..to the point of sometimes being even boring, but thats not the point. the point is winning.

    Whoever invented his fight with Monzon in Paris of all places, really enjoyed the artistic side of life. but surprisingly, their fight was not boring. it was a beatdown but boring it was not.
     
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