Jose Napoles vs. Alexis Arguello at 135

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It might make your head hurt, I'm sure it dose not take much for your head to hurt.
    When he's on his toes, Napoles falls inyo the same pattern. Bounce, Bounce on the outside, stop lean slightly forward, jab or fient of nothing is there for him. If he jabs he either sworms (where I think he lives up to his nickname "Manetequilla" more than anywhere else). If nothing is there for him after the initional jab he backs off and goes back to bounce, bounce...
    So far I have watched Starcey, Lopez, Cokes (last few rounds) and a few rounds of his rematch with Backus.
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Burned it into my memory.

    Aside from cuts what success do you think Arguello would have and how would he achieve it?

    Its good to see you posting regularly, and you seem happier than normal. You finally get prescriped anti-depressants?
     
  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By punching Napoles in the face.

    Nah, as simple-minded as ripcity is, his point about Arguello picking up on on a fighter's movements and getting his own timing down holds some weight (obviously not the way he went about making the point, though). Not that this was any flaw in Mantequilla's style, it's just that Arguello was one of the best at honing in on a target the more time he had to work with, regardless of the incoming fire.

    I think Napoles would do well to switch it up between more of the bounding, in and out, confounding attack style he used against Urbina and his usual, much more methodically paced style. Kind of like a Rodriguez would do. He'd still get hit plenty, but I think Arguello would find the more reserved Napoles an easier target. Napoles would pick up on this, though, no doubt.
     
  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, I've just stopped drinking as much. Instead of getting blasted out of my mind 3-4 times every week, I'm down to having a few drinks every once in a while. Really does well for the mental health.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Pretty much as I see it.

    Good for you. Never seen the point in drinking myself.
     
  6. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I don't drink anymore....just need to knock the skunk on the 'ead.....Bulia, you still not smoking?
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't care if it's Arguello in there with him, it's Mantequilla, Mantequilla, Mantequilla...all night long.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And I think it's still Arguello's hot knife fists going through butter.

    If head gear was being used, I might bet the rent on Napoles, but that susceptibility to cuts was so pervasive, and Alexis was such a sharpshooter...

    Plus, when Jose did nail Arguello, while the Nicaraguan didn't quite have the same chin, he was still really tough and resilient. Ganigan slammed him with monstrous shots, and Alexis came back with fury. Pryor broke Arguello because, as Alexis put it, "I hit him with good shots, and nothing happens." If Arguello hit Napoles like that, something certainly would happen, and it would be blood pudding splattering on the canvas like a Jackson Pollock painting.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I almost never disagree with you on anything Duodenum, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Cuban Henry Cooper loses nearly everytime in h2h matchups...
     
  11. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey man, it's all cool. At least this way, other posters know for sure Duodenum and Red Cobra aren't one and the same, with all the other names I've used here. (And what a boring place this would be without disagreements, huh?)

    I knew Napoles would run away with this poll, but felt Arguello should have advocates making his case as well, and I'm pleased to see him getting some votes now.

    The Cuban Henry Cooper? Sir 'Enery didn't quite have the chin Jose sported.

    A pairing between Napoles and SRL would be an instance where I'd feel more comfortable with picking Jose. This is because Ray never, ever stopped an opponent on cuts. He just wasn't the kind of puncher to draw blood with his fists, sort of an anti-Arguello in that respect.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :dealVery good stuff here.
     
  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm looking to get a job this coming week, so haven't smoked for a couple of weeks. However, I smoked a couple times in the past month and it was awesome. I totally forgot what it was like. Does wonders for movies, music, and boxing.
     
  14. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only way I see Arguello winning this is on a cut stoppage, which is unlikely, but possible.

    Arguello would acquit himself well though, because even if he was the more robotic of the two and more likely to get befuddled with the smoothness and seamless offense/defnese of Napoles, the pace at which the fight would be fought at would suit Arguello (unlike the Pryor fight, which was a little too manic for Alexis) and he will land bombs on Napoles to keep Napoles somewhat weary from going in for the kill.

    If will be evident fairly early that Napoles can take Arguello's shots, but i think that Jose will play it somewhat safe the longer the bout goes, and walk away with a comfy points win.

    As an aside, Powerpuncher mentioned that Napoles dominated Perkins early in this career - Eddie thinks quite differently on that subject.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Briliant description there.

    How so?


    Another point worth noting, I think Napoles would have great success working Arguello's long body with them booming hooks and uppercuts he favoured.