Jose Napoles vs..?

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I didn't know he fought Greb
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Stop being pedantic. That triviality means nothing. 'Maybe the greatest Middlewight' then. Argue the point.
     
  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Seems like a bit of an exaggeration, Napoles is a high workrate outboxer, but he wouldn't be outworking swarmers

    Because you don't need to watch every single fight a man has ever been involved in to analyze him?
     
  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    That wasn't me being pedantic, that was a joke fam
     
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  5. roughdiamond

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    Napoles was an aggressive counter puncher, not an out boxer. He preffered to work aggressively and bait the opponent with headmovement and foot pressure. And Pac is more a power punching volume puncher than out an out swarmer, using his movement to try and go around the opponent. Napoles would land his right hand constantly on Pac.

    And it does matter when you are arguing the man's entire style and getting things wrong. You're first port of call was the Monzon bout as stylistic analysis, which was an anomaly in Napoles career!
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

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    Sorry Mr Marciano!
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    Nah, he has a better defence and better defensive footwork, that's pretty much it. Also, I'm not sure we'd be saying he had a better defence if he fought on the front.

    And anyways, Marquez sure as **** ain't!
     
  8. George Crowcroft

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    Have you seen the first Pac-Marquez fight? He didn't brush aside ****.

    Napoles whole style is on the front foot, whereas Marquez's is sort of in No Man's Land, he doesn't initate or shy away from action. Either way, Napoles is better in every department, both as a boxer and physically. Pac would have to outposition Napoles (not happening) to set up hard shots consistently.
     
  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    What would stop Pac from glueing to Napoles and infighting? Pac would be physically stronger
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    1. His stance. Its much much harder for a southpaw (especially one doesn't usually infight) to consistently get inside. He'd also be finding a hard lead hand on his nose whenever he tried. Southpaws have a harder time getting inside when the opponent doesn't want them to, it's much easier to stop someone advancing with a stiff arm and feet against a lefty.
    Speaking of feet! Napoles feet would dictate how this plan goes. Pac couldn't get past Marquez's right and feet once he adjusted for 41 rounds.
     
  11. roughdiamond

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    And also because Pacquiao isn't an Infighter and fights primarily at mid range?
     
  12. George Crowcroft

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    I thought it rude to mention that. I mean, I did say he didn't usually infight.
     
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  13. roughdiamond

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    Why would it be rude? It's how he boxes against every single opponent.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    I didn't want to imply Lach was talking shite and grasping at straws.

    Pac's darting style would probably work against him here, against someone so accurate we'd see him literally jumping into hard punches.
     
  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Its true he's generally a mid range fighter, but what would stop him from doing that? It would be a superior strategy.