Jose Sulaiman dead at 82

Exactly!!!

Someone wants to know what poor Jose has done to deserve this slagging-

As Robert already mentioned, they tried to **** Buster out of his win over Tyson by claiming there were 2 knockouts and the first should overrule the second. They only backtracked when the whole world was up in arms about what they were attempting. Tyson losing was mainstream so they were not just trying to pull the wool over boxing fans eyes as per normal but also the general public and the general public wasn't having it.

Stripping Spinks of his title because he had the audacity to give Ali a rematch instead of Norton.

Stripped Chacon of his title for signing to fight Boza Edwards who was his MANDATORY instead of King promoted Camacho.

Tried stripping Holyfield for fighting Bowe instead of King managed Razor Ruddock. Holyfield took them to court.

When Tyson was released from prison and signed with King, the WBC made him number 1 contender having had no fights in 4 years.

Made King promoted Chavez the mandatory for Kostya Tszyu after being beat by club fighter Willy Wise and not fighting in that weight class for 2 years.

How about when he tried stripping Graciano Rocchigiani of his WBC title to give it to Roy Jones.
It's just a pity that Rocchigiani settled out of court at the last minute as the WBC were declaring bankruptcy.

No wonder he loved Don King and did whatever King wanted as King was the one who gave these corrupt ****ers legitimacy.

Most people didn't give a **** about the WBA or the WBC up until King rigged the U.S championship in the 70's. This was the tournament that fighters like Hagler didn't get to join because he wouldn't sign his career away to King and the tournament was fixed in favour of King fighters.

King managed to bribe "The Ring" magazine to rate his fighters into rankings that they didn't deserve.
At that time the Ring rankings were considered the legit, unbiased rankings. After this sham tourney was cancelled and the Ring pissed away their reputation and integrity, boxing turned to the WBC and the WBA for their rankings.

Other Greedy *******s seen how this was a cash cow and made up their own rankings such as the IBF. Larry Holmes was a great fighter but I will never forgive him for giving the IBF legitimacy by taking their endorsement as Heavyweight champ.

Now, we not only have 4 sanctioning bodies who won't work together for the betterment of boxing but these greedy *******s have multiple World Champs in their own rankings. Silver champ, Diamond champ, World champ, Interim Champ, Super champ, Emeritus Champ.
The only reason all these multiple champs exist is for SANCTIONING FEE'S and this ***** was a big part of this.

How many Worlds are there???

I will never understand how boxers and boxing fans have allowed this to take place. As Larry Holmes said "Boxing is the only sport were the Lions are afraid of the Rats".

 

He showed what he was made of after Tyson Douglas, where he took the belt from Douglas, after order from King. The public outcry after this forced him to give it back to the rightfull owner, Buster Douglas....
There has been waaay to many stories and episodes where he has shown, that if you show some dollars, you can get what you want from WBC..
His Family and friends are sad and will off course miss him, but I doubt any boxing lovers will do the same...

 

yeah, those were the days of that corrupt mexican! Now lets hope arum & king drop dead too, another couple of worthless *******s, who rip there boxers off. just ask tim witherspoon & ali! And read this book, boxing confidential too, by jim brady a fearless boxing news american correspondent. He took those two cretins to task right in there faces!!

 

Now, I was relieved because that meant a restoration of the championship distance for HW Title bouts. I could swallow Michael Spinks succeeding him to that title because it did happen over the championship distance. I was still hopeful the 15 round limit might be restored and saved for all title bouts.

SRL-Hagler over 12 was not acceptable to me, and having Tyson-Tucker shortened from the championship distance to 12 rounds at the last moment was the final eradicator of my interest in contemporary boxing.

The IBF had a lot of early media support and good will, but Bob Lee turned out to be just another POS. My wish was for the legitimacy of Holmes and Hagler to break the grip of Sulamain and the WBC, which itself was what I considered to be an upstart organization dating back only 19 years at the time of Mancini-Kim. The WBA was over four decades older.

I simply stopped being a boxing fan.

At the time, I was still hoping the BBBofC and EBU would maintain the championship distance, and that maybe the NYSAC would revive it.

Pat O'Grady even scheduled a WAA HW Title fight involving Monte Masters for 20 rounds, but it fell through. If just one renegade organization said, "Screw you!" to Sulamain's outrageous and impulsive dictate to change established tradition, the 12 round maximum limit would have gone away, but the lawmakers and other sanctioning bodies wound up sucking him off, giving him and the WBC power they never should have had or deserved.

Just one regional commission with balls might be able to change all this by reestablishing the championship distance for even non-title bouts in defiance of all other agencies, but I don't expect it, and too much time and continuity of history has been lost for me to care. Hell, put head gear on them. I don't know their faces anyway. To me, it's a dead sport. Sulamain and the upstart WBC (established only in 1963) is the primary reason why.

 

As corrupt as Don King , should we be unhappy that this man is no longer with us?

The was I measure a person is , did he give more than he took from this world???

He took a lot and ruined a lot of boxers lives.

 

Who cares the man was a corrupt piece of scum and i am happy that ****er is dead, the sonner Arum and King join him the better, this guy was a large part of what is wrong with boxing corruption and greed with bull**** rankings and paper belts Respect for the dead i had no respect for him when he was alive so why have it now glad he is gone *******.

 

Come on man tell us how you really feel.

 

The end of 15 round fights was great for boxing. Boxers took way too much damage in the later rounds and highly publicized deaths occured after the 12th round, Duk Koo Kim being one.

 

That's crap. Many deaths occurred in rounds before round 12, too. The 15-round fights ended because it was easier to fit a 12-rounder into a TV schedule. Period. It had nothing at all to do with safety. Aside from Griffith-Paret, name another that ended in a death after round 12.

Meanwhile, I'll name Scypion-Classen, Ruelas-Garcia, Davila-Bejines, Robinson-Doyle, Ramos-Moore........all those ended tragically before the conclusion of the 12th round.

 

dealdeal:deal The old f*ck deserved to die much sooner.

 

This is one of the best posts i've read on this forum, informative and to the point.

I've always said that boxing is the best sport in the world and always the worst run one too.

The problem is that it's never had a real independent world wide governing body which has meant all these cowboy run operations have taken control of it.

 

Agree with every word you wrote, that piece of **** was in Don King's pocket he robbed fighters of their belts, ranked King fighters above more deserving men. **** that piece of **** i'd happily **** on his grave.

 

The championship distance facilitated safety by requiring better conditioning. Kim died because of a single punch. Kiko Bejines, Johnny Owen and Benny Paret died after action ended in round 12. They didn't give a damn about safety, they were using the pretense of safety as an excuse to try generating more advertiser income, and wound up killing the golden goose instead.

How was the end of it good for boxing? It disappeared from the networks, the front pages of newspapers, and the Yahoo Sports boxing page has more often than not been completely blank. In America, it was one of the major sports when Sulamain screwed with it. Now, boxing's a niche interest that aspiring writers can't hope to make a living covering.

35 years ago, Stoney's series on the Cocoa Kid would have won a Pulitzer, and Klompton's book on Greb might have been a bestseller in days gone by. Ali's return from exile was network news material. Sulamain began the process which sent the sport spiraling out of the American mainstream, never to return.

Sal's completely right about the motives behind Sulamain's actions.

 

Stuff like this :

The WBC and Don King:


Many in the boxing community have accused the WBC of bending its rules to suit powerful promoter Don King. As Jack Newfield says in his book on Don King, Only in America, “...[WBC President Jose] Sulaiman became more King’s junior partner than his independent regulator.” Peter Heller, in his book Bad Intentions: The Mike Tyson Story, echoes that comment: “Sulaiman...became little more than an errand boy for Don King.” Heller also quotes British promoter Mickey Duff as saying, “My complaint is that Jose Sulaiman is not happy his friend Don King is the biggest promoter in boxing. Sulaiman will only be happy when Don King is the only promoter in boxing.”

The actions of the WBC give some credence to this charge. A partial list:

When Leon Spinks won the WBA and WBC Heavyweight championships from Muhammad Ali in 1978, the WBC stripped Leon Spinks of his title. Jose Sulaiman said the WBC did so because Spinks was signed for a rematch with Ali instead of fighting a Don King fighter, Ken Norton. Norton then defended the WBC title against another Don King fighter, Larry Holmes, who won the belt.
In 1983, WBC Super Featherweight champion Bobby Chacon was signed to fight the WBC’s mandatory challenger for his title, Cornelius Boza-Edwards. Promoter Don King, however, wanted his fighter, Hector Camacho, to fight for the title. Even though WBC rules said the mandatory challenger should receive a shot at the title, the WBC withdrew its sanction from the fight and then stripped Chacon for refusing to fight Camacho.
Under WBC rules, a fighter is supposed to defend his title against a mandatory challenger at least once a year. For fighters controlled by Don King, this rule is often ignored. Mike Tyson, Alexis Arguello, and Carlos Zarate, for instance, were allowed to ignore their obligations to their mandatory contenders while WBC champions.
While WBC Super Featherweight champion, Julio Cesar Chavez wanted to fight top contender Roger Mayweather for a promoter other than Don King. The WBC withheld its sanction of the fight until Don King became promoter.
When Mike Tyson lost to James "Buster" Douglas during a WBC and WBA Heavyweight championship defense, Don King convinced the WBC (along with the WBA) to withhold recognition of Douglas as heavyweight champion. King claimed that Tyson had actually won the fight due to knocking down Douglas and the referee giving Douglas a “long count." Because of intense public pressure, both the WBA and WBC backed down and recognized Douglas as champion.
When Mike Tyson was released from prison in 1995, the WBC installed him as their #1 contender for their heavyweight championship. Tyson had not fought in four years, but was promoted by Don King.
In 2000, King-promoted Julio Cesar Chavez was the mandatory challenger for Kostya Tszyu's WBC super lightweight title. Chavez was the mandatory challenger though he had not fought at super lightweight for two years, had recently lost to journeyman boxer Willie Wise, and had not beaten a top contender since losing his first fight to Oscar de la Hoya in 1996.
In 2005, the WBC stripped Javier Castillejo of his super welterweight title for fighting Fernando Vargas instead of Don King-promoted Ricardo Mayorga. Mayorga somehow qualified for a shot at the super welterweight title despite the fact that he had never fought at that weight limit and had lost two of his last three fights

 

I have nothing good to say about this man. He is one of the most corrupted figures in boxing and has done the sport a lot of harm.

I'm not sad about his passing. I won't say anything more than than.