Joseph Dennis Parker vs. Dereck Chisora II & Carlos Gongora vs. Lerrone Richards RBR.

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  1. Astro

    Astro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've had huge problems accessing DAZN all weekend (my account had suddenly been shut down) BUT now I've seen most of the UK fights from last night and it was again very embarrassing - both the judges' scorecard in Parker vs Chisora and Mike Costello.

    They might as well find 3 monkeys from the local Zoo who can sit by ringside and score. I'm sure they can handle it just as well as the judges did in Parker vs Chisora.

    Where has Mike Costello's integrity gone ?
     
  2. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    On the comeback after two big beatings, it would make sense for Wilder to face an easier opponent, although it wouldn't be exciting from the perspective of a viewer. Wilder would absolutely pulverise the pay-per-view star.
     
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  3. Astro

    Astro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Adam Smith is several classes better than Mike Costello. Costello does not see what is happening in the ring.
     
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  4. Astro

    Astro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've never been particularly impressed with Jack Cullen and I do not understand what Eddie Hearn / Matchroom will use him for? As soon as Cullen meets an opponent close to the world elite he will lose (as we saw last night).
     
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  5. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder would have blasted any version of Chisora out early.
     
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  6. NEETzschean

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    Chisora from a few years back could have taken Wilder into the second half. Tough pressure fighters have form for going rounds with Wilder (Stiverne 1, Arreola, Duhaupas) but by the same token if Wilder landed clean early in the fight, it could be KO1 (Stiverne 2, Breazeale).

    Wilder probably wouldn't have tried to blast Chisora out early and would have been content to soften Chisora up on the backfoot first but Wilder would have undoubtedly stopped him sooner or later.
     
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  7. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chisora is very open to right handers. Think Wilder would have got him badly hurt early and with his power and finishing ability he would have took him out at that point.
     
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  8. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    I can. They -- and cards like them -- come about because Matchroom have absolutely no shame. They aren't even making any effort to conceal it now.
     
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  10. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    I actually think Chisora will stick around for a few more paydays, due in no small part to Eddie Hearn and others around him enabling him and telling him how game he is and that he lasted the distance with Parker, while overlooking the fact that Chisora took an absolute pasting.
     
  11. EJC83

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    When was the last time there was an Eddie Hearn card without some iffy judging or some questionable decisions ie. Edwards v Martinez?
     
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  12. bbjc

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    I rate chisora higher than most...but going off last night that was his last hurrah near that level. Time to be sensible now.

    Although cant help think coldwell played a part in chisora looking worse than he has in previous recent fights. Hard to point the finger because chisora at his age was due a decline...plus parkers team made a good decision bringing him in heavier.

    Not really pointing the finger at coldwell who seems a half decent coach...but with del you cant really teach him to box like you would most boxers. His first coach understood that don as did haye...i dont think coldwell did. Not that he had him boxing any better...but chisoras constant pressure from the start wasnt really there last night. Wasnt quite as powerful etc either. Chisora was looking good under hayes regime...stupid to let him go.
     
  13. BeantownAll

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    Wilder will end up fighting either the winner of Trevor Bryan/Manuel Charr or Mahmoud Charr will simply "vanish" from the card... to be replaced by Wilder.

    Why? Because winning that WBA "title" is the easiest way to get Wilder quickly-positioned for a mandatory opportunity. Wilder is 36 - there is no "rebuilding" here - just one last chance for a quick score and the above scenario enables it.
     
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  14. alpo1

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    Penfold isn't a good coach. He's a towel carrier who got lucky.
     
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  15. bbjc

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    Fair enough...not his biggest fan either but tbf he done a good enough job with bellew. I think their is an element of luck etc in where hes got to....but very few guys that aren,t at least half decent coaches will get to that level. Its allright watching from a far but if you we,re to actually sit down with him i,d bet you,d find out hes knows what hes talking about.

    Thats by the by tho...i just think he didnt really understand the job with chisora and played a part in chisoras worst performance in years. The stuff that works with most fighters wont work with delboy. The biggest part of the job with del is getting him big strong and fit ready for a non stop battle. As soon as you start talking to del about technique...your almost wasting time.

    I think coldwell thought he,d improve him with his methods but all its left him is unable to do the things that made him a proper handful. Chisora tried to do the same things but he was weaker last night...tired quicker...and let parker get into the fight at a comfortable pace from the off. Was nothing on a lot of his shots last night...when in previous fights although he tired....was still able to throw powerful shots throughout. Maybe it wasdown to age...chisora was due a decline cant help but suspect coldwell played a part in a poorish performance tho.