Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Cristian Ciocan & Jason Cunningham vs. Zolani Tete RBR.

Frank Warren openly said that the fight is dead in the water, Shalom made an offer. Big difference.

 

I agree but AJ is not one of the top guys.

 

Yes he obviously is one of the top guys if not the top guy.

 

How can he not be one of the top guys when he is ranked in the top three by practically everybody?

 

I think Joyce is a problem for a lot of fighters. But where does this idea come from that he is being ducked?

What we do know is Joyce's team called out Ortiz. Then ran away from the smoke.

Joyce was also conveniently injured when Hrgovic was being shopped around.

The Parker fight fell through, but I don't see why Parker should disadvantage himself to please Warren. Especially given Parker has a bigger profile than Joyce.

I also don't believe Hammer was the best they could get at short notice, when there are fighters in the top 40 like Zhang who would be desperate for the opportunity to replace him at WBO #1...

So no, I'm not buying this idea that Joyce is being ducked, more than likely Warren needs to dig a little deeper under the sofa cushions if he wants a legitimate opponent for him.

 

So you think Ben will let the fight happen on BT?

Frank made an offer with a view to the fight being on BT

Shalom has made an offer with a view to the fight being on SKY

No difference at all really

 

I don't think Fury is losing any sleep over Joyce.

We've already seen how Fury deals with big, stiff fighters, and Joyce makes the Wlad that fought Fury look like Muhammad Ali.

 

Frank said the fight is dead, Ben hasn't and made an offer. See the difference yet?

 

No I dont

Neither promotion will allow it to be on a rival network

So its dead both ends

Shalom also named Wilder as a potential opponent

Learning from Hearn on how to drop a series of names and one average one which is normally going to be to opposition

In that case Franklin

Its a false offer thats not going to be accepted and he knows it

Would he of the terms were that its on BT?

I don't think so

Its dead in the water to both parties but Ben is saving face for his new signing