Joseph Parker gets sent to the 1960s, does he clear the the lot ? (Boxing Evolution Theory)

Yeah, I think he beats almost everyone in that time...

 

Liston's best opponents were pretty undersized compared to Joe and the guys he fought:

Patterson- 6'0", 189, World Champion
Patterson- 6'0", 194, #1 NBA contender
Foley- 6'1",198.5, #3 NBA contender, #1 Ring Magazine
Williams- 6'2", 215.5 Unranked
Willlams- 6'2", 210, # NBA 10 contender
Machon- 6'0", 196, #2 NBA Contender, #3 Ranked Ring Magazine
Valdez- 6'3", 211, #2 Ring Magazine
Summerline 6'1", 201, Unranked
Summerline 6'1", 206, Unranked
Marshall, 6'0.5", 18, Unranked
Marshall, 6'0.5", 179, "Honorable Mention" at LHW
Wepner, 6'5", 228, Unranked
Clark, 6'3", 215, #5 NBA contender
Rischer, not listed, 200, Unranked
Bethea, 6'0", 204, #8 Ring magazine
Westphal, 5'7.5", 195, Unranked
Besmanoff, 5'11", 201, Unranked
Harris, 6'0", 195, #6 NBA, #7 Ring Magazine
Dejohn, 6'2.5", 202, #9 ranked NBA, #8 Ranked Ring Magazine

 

If Whyte can drop him, why can't Liston?

 

He’d almost certainly be in the top 5 imo

 

Let's think of this objectively.

The majority of the biggest punchers in heavyweight history have been men who weighed between 210-225 lbs at their peak. This list includes modern fighters like Wilder and historical ones like Tyson, Tua, Liston, Foreman etc.

Fighters today do not punch any harder than in previous eras. A man weighing 250 lbs does not necessarily hit harder than a man weighing 220 lbs. There is a limit to how much force the human body can generate.

Parker would certainly be top 5 in the 60s. But Parker does not hit harder than Liston IMO despite being 50 lbs bigger.

The human body has not drastically changed or evolved in the last 60 years.

Parker is carrying 267 lbs well. But who is to say he can carry it over 12 rounds? We haven't seen his stamina in a 12 round fight, let alone a 15 round one. Just because he has added lots of muscle and not fat does not mean it won't adversely affect his stamina.

Just because a guy like Liston did not fight large heavies doesn't mean he couldn't hurt them. Prior to Usyk's move up from cruiserweight, there were people questioning whether he had the power to hurt the larger heavies to make them respect him. And guess what? The 220 lb Usyk hits with enough force to hurt bigger men to deter them from walking him down.

I would be willing to bet everthing i own that Liston could generate more power than Usyk despite Liston not having faced SHW's.

Parker isn't fast enough to outpoint Ali. Could he beat Liston? Not sure how. I doubt Parker hits harder than Cleveland Williams. Unless Parker can blast Liston out of there, he likely struggles to deal with Liston's long jab and power. I favour Liston here.

I would also favour 205 lb Frazier to outpoint and outwork Parker. Could Parker drop Frazier? Maybe. But Parker does not have Foreman level power no matter how big he is.

So i do not favour Parker over Ali, Liston and young Frazier but i favour him over the other 60s guys. That being said, we have no idea whether he can actually carry 270 lbs over a 15 round fight. Unless he knocks everyone out early, his size works against him in a long fight.

Some boxing techniques have evolved. But power is timeless. A 270 lb man does not necessarily hit harder than a 220 lb man, otherwise Fury and Parker would be bigger punchers than Wilder.

 

Fury, AJ, Usyk and Parker all dominate every era up to the 90's

And only Wlad, Lennox and a few others from the 2000s could compete with them.....

 

I am sure there were people in the 90's who thought the same way about the 70's and yet two heavies from the 70's who were ancient (Holmes and Foreman) somehow managed to compete against the 90's guys.

Fury and AJ were meant to be too big for a former cruiserweight (according to many), yet they both fell short vs the Ali/Holmes sized man.

 

Usyk uses speed and elusiveness. He is basically the "Chris Byrd" of our time - but better.

But as for the rest,

Until the late 1990s, we had never seen men of such size, mobility and power.

Today's SHWs are the ATGs over every era for this reason.

Even Ali I doubt can compete. (Sorry to rain on every parade)

 

Are we talking about PED Parker or the one that thought Whyte and Joyce?

 

I think he'd be terrifying in that time period and all of Liston's scary faces won't save him from getting knocked out.

 

I still think Liston and Foreman beat him

 

If Usyk can compete with his speed, why can't men like Ali and Holmes who were faster than Usyk?

 

They weren't faster than Usyk

And Ali lost to lesser men than these guys

 

Its pretty clear on film that Usyk is nowhere near as quick as Ali. Put them side by side and there is a notable difference in hand speed and foot speed. It isn't even close.