Joseph Parker gets sent to the 1960s, does he clear the the lot ? (Boxing Evolution Theory)

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Would Joseph Parker overwhelm the 1960s ?

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  1. Parker destroys those outdated heavyweights

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  2. He beats everyone but Ali

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  3. No

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  1. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    It isn't just hand and foot speed.

    It is the whole package.

    And Ali never faced a man like these SHWs in his entire career.
     
  2. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Member Full Member

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    Parker might win because he has grown up watching all these guys on tape and trained an evolved version of their styles, where as they won't have seen or faced a fighter like Parker before.

    He might struggle to adapt his drug regimen, diet and training to match what they had available in the 60s though. I think he could drop the weight and fight 15 rounds if required, it would probably be harder for him to adapt to how differently it was reffed.

    Also fighters on average definitely hit harder these days, I'm not saying the older generation didn't hit hard and had some standouts but the average joe heavyweight packs more of a punch.
     
  3. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You’re kidding right?

    The limitations of AJ, Fury and Parker would be exposed very quickly by Ali. And they’d be dealt with ruthlessly.

    Usyk is the only heavyweight around today that puts himself in a fight with Ali and has a legitimate chance. And he’s the smallest of the lot. It’s an absolute fallacy that the SHW’s are faster and hit harder than the guys that Ali fought. George Foreman was stronger and hit harder than any SHW alive today. And we all know what Ali did to him.
     
  4. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    He'd beat a lot of the top 20 but loses to the best guys around that era. Ali, Liston, Frazier, Foreman.
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    He would do well imo. But people need to realise that longer distances always favour the smaller man. If Parker was fighting 15 rounders regularly, he would be lighter (unless he didn't care about gassing). Given that Parker never approaches bouts as a one hit slugger, he likely wouldn't be as big back then as some think. A current 'big' Parker may find his work rate is simply too low, especially down the stretch.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ridiculous.

    Straight jacket time.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Where on earth does this line of thinking come from?

    If you’re not trolling.

    It’s absurd.
     
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  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ali was absolutely faster than Usyk.

    And you can apply the relevant context needed for Ali’s losses.
     
  9. OddR

    OddR Active Member Full Member

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    Your good at these :p
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hand speed.

    Foot speed.

    Reflexes/reaction time.

    Not even close.

    You’ve just seen a slower guy of Ali’s EXACT physical attributes, out manoeuvre both AJ and Tyson.

    Not on power.

    On movement.

    Yet you’re telling us that an even faster guy of the same size, couldn’t also have replicated those performances.

    Now on what planet would Parker, Usyk and AJ, have been able to have gone through Ali, Holmes, Foreman and Tyson etc?

    It’s not in any way realistic.

    Look at some of the stylistic match ups.
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The guy that got ko'ed by Joyce is too good?
     
  13. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    You all are forgetting SIZE

    "A good big man will always defeat a good small man" - we have this saying for a reason.

    Today's SHWs are MONSTERS compared with every other era. And MOBILE and POWERFUL with it.

    Ali is simply too small. And he was not unbeatable even in his own day.
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another post where I’m going to assume that you’re trolling.

    Ali was the EXACT same size as Usyk.

    Sane height, reach and weight.

    Limited power, but used great movement to beat guys.

    All of your posts are completely illogical.

    Full of nonsense and contradictions.

    To the point where I’m now convinced that you’re trolling.
     
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