Joseph Parker: "I was rubbish against Takam"

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Szpilka isn't ANYWHERE remotely near Povetkins level. Szpilka went life and death with Mollo TWICE... Was completely schooled and stopped by light hitting Jennings. Szpilka isn't even that effective of a Southpaw. He's converted and would probably be better off at Orthodox. Being a Southpaw doesn't automatically make you good or awkward to deal with. He's done nothing apart from narrowly beating a shot Adamek. Mediocre fighter with a lot of vulnerabilities.
     
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  2. NakiFan

    NakiFan Proud Kiwi Guy Full Member

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    Get inside Wilder, and you have taken away his strengths. He has his long levers, but without them he has an average inside game. I'd see Povetkin covering up, pressuring him then unloading combos on the inside.

    We wouldn't be talking about Wilder if Stiverne did this.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder would have easily beat Povetkin. Even with the PEDS, I wish he just took that fight, but then again I'm not the one going in there with a PED cheat.
     
  4. NakiFan

    NakiFan Proud Kiwi Guy Full Member

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    Wilder fans always bring up a nanogram of a once legal substance....to cover up the frailties of their hero.

    Do you bring up Aereolla's stand down period for a bit of weed in the same conversation?

    Seems that a nanogram vs a joint has different meanings to some folk.
     
  5. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Parker can be forgiven for that 'rubbish' fight against Takam because hes fought more times this year than any of the top 5. Takam was never promoted as an easy win either.

    Ruiz will be a knockout victory.
     
  6. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Well said, Rockradar.

    Agreed.
     
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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I said I wanted the fight to happen even though he was caught right? But like I said, I don't blame Wilder's team for not takign the fight because Povetkin clearly made a huge transformation after the Wlad fight, started koing brutally like Perez, and Takam, and went from flabby to the hulk. Wilder's team probably assumed that Povetkin was using meldonium to mask other PEDS. Either way Wilder would have beat the dog **** out of Povetkin, so I would have wanted him to just take the fight either way.
     
  8. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree about the Povetkin doping scandal, however I'm not at all convinced Wilder would've won, let alone easily.

    Even if Povetkin is overrated he'd still be Wilder's best opponent by far. And to be honest if Wilder and his team were as confident as you are, they would've taken the fight regardless of the doping.

    I had Deontay as a slight favourite but that was all.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never said Povetkin is overrated, I think you're getting me confused with another poster, I just think stylistically he's an easy win for Wilder. Unlike the Szpilka fight, Povetkin would be the one coming forward, and Wilder boxes much better off the back foot. He's pretty raw and doesn't set his offense up well that's why he looked like **** against Szpilka.
     
  10. Beatle

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    He's rubbish, period.

    As soon as he fights a guy with a punch, he'll get KTFO.
     
  11. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    They all stopped him in 3 rounds unless I'm mistaken. My point is theres nothing to suggest Parker is superior to Whyte, they look to be on a pretty similar level.
     
  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes there is. Him beating better opponents and showing different varieties to his game, just like in the case of Wilder and Jun Long Zhang. We haven't seen anything from Whyte other than a good chin and decent power. Parker on the other hand showed great hand speed(one of the best in the division along with Ruiz Jr), good foot speed, a decent jab, ability to fight on the front foot and off the back foot, ability to handle pressure and deal with variety, better one punch KO power and just as good of a chin as Whyte.
     
  13. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Parker is way above Whyte by every measure.

    It is against the Haye's and Joshua's that questions remain for Parker.
     
  14. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats a stupid point because Parker has had more fights against more experienced fighters and is undefeated and fighting for a world title next month. Whyte doesnt have any of that. The only thing Whyte has over Parker is that Whytes lost by techinical knockout! Very stupid point.
     
  15. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rankings most of the time mean ****, we all should know this fact