Joseph Parker vs Zhilei Zhang

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Mighty One, Sep 25, 2017.


  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I thought I was the Chinese John Holmes. Despite being average by European standards and not Chinese.

    Ba dum tsh!
     
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  2. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zhang is being mentioned as an opponent along with Lucas Browne, Fujimoto and Bryant Jennings with sites in Australia, Japan and the U.S. as possible.. . . .My last pick would be Jennings. It is only a sideways move by Bob Arum to involve one of his own fighters. The others are meaningful involving more money and higher profiles.
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I think it will likely be Browne.
     
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  4. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Zhang Zhilei beat Joseph Parker via 15:7 score back in 2011.
     
  5. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Parker has only been fighting "risky" fights because he's not good enough to dominate them as he should have. Zhillie Zhang is a tougher matchup than Fujimoto and many of the other rumored fights so we can scratch this one off the list.
     
  6. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do you know that when most of them have not been even nearly beaten prior to fighting Parker, aside from Takam losing to PEDvetkin? HEAPS of people were saying Hughie Fury would beat Parker and a few other top ten guys before the fight, as usual when Parker passes his test somehow both guys stock drop despite Parker's should be rising.

    Deontay Wilder only JUST took his first solid "0", and the guy he took it from was possibly winning the fight before Wilder windmilled him.
     
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  7. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Andy Ruiz, Takam, Fury are a dime a dozen sub top 10 to top 40 type of guys that Parker was supposed to knock out instead all were close fights in unimpressive fashion and you give him a pass on that. Parker lost a lot of credibility to the point that taking his scalp isn't even worth that much anymore.
     
  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Completely moot coming from you because Wilder has looked far from amazing during his title run.
     
  9. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But are they? Again, who else aside from PEDVetkin has even hurt any of them? I never treated ANY of them like they were going to be easy matches, and they turned out more or less as expected - so I like to think I have a reasonable gauge of what they were capable of, and what Parker was capable of.

    Parker has blown through top 20-40 guys already, these guys were "officially" in that range but hadn't hit any resistance before facing Parker which meant they "peaked" - which is part of why Parker probably deserves more credit than he gets.

    What the likes of Joshua/AJ etc's match making has been has to pick highly rated opponents whose limits have been tested and successfully exploited - so getting wins against people who are already known quantities. Parker, for better or for worse... has had match ups with people who are also highly regarded prospects but haven't had enough higher end fights to shift into the top 20 or so but could well be dangerous enough to exist in that territory - meaning that a hard fought win or a loss will never be seen as positively as if he fought someone proven to play to his strengths but is rated highly.

    Case in point, Alexander Dimitrenko is #23 in Boxrec - higher than Ruiz AND Fury were when he fought them, and looked WAY out of his depth against Parker. The Parker who fought Hughie Fury was by my eye more complete than the Parker who faced Dimitrenko.

    That doesn't meant that Ruiz/Hughie are WAY better than they are regarded or otherwise - but we just don't know. He needs more flattering match making now they he has better leverage for negotiating fights.

    I personally would like to see him fight Christian Hammer, #9 in Boxrec and #2 in WBO who was the most recent person to decapitate David Price. I put that as an easier fight that Fury/Takam/Ruiz for the current Parker and would legitimize his position somewhat more against a more proven contender.
     
  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Parker would have trouble with Jun Long Zhang, the other Zhang is the lesser Zhang. :naughty2:
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    Parker should fight Sconiers or one of the other winos from the alley Wilder fights, then he would get some credit, Wilder fans would finally claim that Parker is a killer like Wilder!
     
  12. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We can use our eyes, Ruiz, Takam, can't fight a full 12 rounds, and all 3 minutes of the rounds they actually fight in, they are not top 10, Hughie isn't either. Dimitrenko is at the bottom end of the top 40 at best. All of these opponents are overrated and Parker should have won all of these fights clearly which he didn't. He's not improving either. Now that he knows his stamina is faulty he doesn't bang with volume like he should (which would have gotten him more tko's) and hasn't found a plan B yet since his boxing is basic.

    Nobody knows Zhang so the fight isn't likely anyways it's just a tougher matchup than the rumored Fujimoto. Even mentioning Fuji shows they are scamming a bit because that dude is mediocre. I mean if they are that intent in fighting in Asia.
     
  13. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It seems that a Parker-Joshua fight is stalled over a stupid split offered by Eddie Hearn. . . . I say do a Zhilei vs Parker bout in Las Vegas (both train there) and sell to PPV in China. . . .forget about the live gate, Joseph will make real money from that fight and Chinese TV.
     
  14. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

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    If Joshua talks are stalled out fight Jennings in Vegas with the angle of setting up a unification with Wilder. Whoever comes out of that with two belts should be on closer to even ground money wise for the Joshua fight.
     
  15. TheMikeLake

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    He recently tried out for the WWE.