Joseph William Calzaghe vs. Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán

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The Welsh Dragon or Canelo?

  1. Calzaghe on points

    88.5%
  2. Calzaghe by stoppage

    8.2%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Álvarez on points

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Álvarez by stoppage

    3.3%
  1. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im going for Calzaghe to Bivol him.
     
  2. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Never seen anything in Alvarez that would bother Zags - just a really bad - if not the worst style match up for Canelo. And Joe was not a small 168 lber.

    Speed, angles, footwork and some of the best workrate is just a mare for Canelo

    It would be like Bivol, except more dominant, and possibly even a late stoppage - Canelo simply won't be able to keep up, and could even get stopped late.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    I still need someone to explain to me how folks were putting Canelo top 50 all time when even Calzaghe's biggest fans don't put him any higher than 80 (if he indeed even makes a top 100) and Calzaghe is clearly superior to Canelo. :thinking:

    The maths ain't mathing.
     
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  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Super Joe. I miss that guy. The Welsh Warrior
     
  5. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    Money. That's why. Canelo is a revenue generator. Everybody involved in the boxing ecosystem is trying to get fat off the Canelo fanbase. Pumping up Canelo's rating puts more eyeballs on the screen.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    I mean they could tell the truth, that Calzaghe is a much better fighter, both in absolute terms and in pound for pound terms, but Calzaghe being a Welshman who rarely left the UK, didn't have the economic clout necessary for the powers that be to promote his greatness.
     
  7. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe easily beats Clenelo.
    So does Ward.

    The real question is who wins Calzaghe vs Ward.
    On that one I don't know... I am leaning towards Ward as he beat Kovalev (albeit by cheating).
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe beats Canelo wide. Ward wins a comfortable decision against Calzaghe. Hes too fundamentally sound for the unorthodox somewhat technically flawed Calzaghe.
     
  9. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe likely wins every round, it is not as if canelo will rough him up

    Canelo much too short and not fast enough

    Calzaghe was brilliant at 168 and he usually raises his game in the big fights
    Easy win for JC
     
  10. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Ginger nuts would have to get 3 Adelaide Byrds in judging to have a chance.

    Wide UD for the Welsh Dragon
     
  11. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Had to go Calzaghe UD and I agree with most, Joe's work rate and athleticism sees him through to a wide points win.
     
  12. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo struggles with southpaws, fleet footed and slicker fighters, someone who puts on a high pace consistently, someone who's bigger with a similar level of boxing and especially struggles against elite jabbers. Calzaghe has everything that Canelo can't handle, plus he's tough as hell so he could probably take whatever single shot bombs Canelo would land on him sporadically although he'd evade most of those telegraphed loaded up shots. I don't think this is much of a debate that can be had. Calzaghe is bigger, faster and more versatile. He can beat Alvarez boxing in any of the many ways he can.
     
  13. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    Assuming it's on the level, Calzaghe would use Canelo's head as a speed bag.
     
  14. Salad Man

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    Joe slaps Canelo around like a red-headed step child