Josh James William Taylor vs. Jack Catterall & Robeisy Ramirez vs. Eric Donovan RBR.

No its not LOL

4 rounds to Caterall! GTFO.. Josh pretty much got schooled for 2/3 of that fight.. he looked fkin awful.. yet you have him winning by eight rounds! You've spent too long dining out on the Usyk thing mate.. I can't find anyone legit who thinks Taylor won 8 rounds.. if anything it was the other way around and I have spent years being a huge fan of Taylor.. so don't accuse ppl of having agendas.. i'd have been happy for Taylor had he legit won but he didn't.. Caterall I have had a casual interest in but saw some things that told me he would be in this fight.. & I saw that kid put in a coming of age performance against a legit fighter and just like the likes of Kovalev had it pulled from under him buy some crusty old corrupt **** with a pen & paper.. it's telling that you haven't even really praised Catterall's performance (he just CLEARLY outboxed a top 5 prime p4p fighter) let alone admitting that scoring was dodgy.. we all have bias & none of us are perfect but I don't think I could score that fight for Taylor even if Andre Ward & Adelaide Byrd momentarily posessed me

 

Punch stats had Catterall outlanding him in every round but one… Plus he got a knockdown, Plus Taylor's trainer was telling Josh he needed a KO… There is no ****ing way you can argue he won eight rounds. Eight rounds is a comfortable win.. Jack was making a mug of Taylor for large parts

 

There were 11 posters who posted their complete round by round scoring of Taylor-Catterall en masse at the end of the fight. All 11 gave round 11 to Taylor and 10 of the 11, including me, gave the 12th to Taylor. We talked about how Catterall hurt himself in the last three or four rounds. We said he needed to go and take the title and that he did not do that.

We were all right about that, and yet there is a reasonable chance we were wrong. According to Punch Stat, Catterall landed 17 of 74 punches in the last two rounds while Taylor landed just 6 of 45 punches, three in each round. I realize not all punches are scored equally but there were no great Taylor punches that should have overridden an almost 3-1 connect advantage for Catterall in punches landed.

The last couple of rounds were difficult to score because of all of the holding and referee interference. Add to that the fact that Catterall looked like he was shirking away from the fight while Taylor was pressing the attack and it is easy to see why it looked like JT won the last two rounds. In fact, even knowing the stats and watching the last two rounds again, I had a hard time scoring for Catterall because of what it seemed like was taking place

I consider myself a knowledgeable scorer of fights. I believe many others on this forum are knowledgeable as well but I believe we got this wrong. My score of 113-112 Catterall should have been 115-110 and those who had it 114-111 for Taylor should have had it 113-112 for Cat.

 

But it is still wrong to take the deduction into the account of that particular round, as it has no influence on it, as if you do so, you won't get the round as 9 - 9 are mainly not practised. Other than knockdowns have an effect of the single round were these happened.

Point-deductions are penalties for the whole result/ the accumulated points, so they only have an effect after the end of the fight, if it goes to the scorecards, but not for a specific round. 10 - 8 (or possibly even 9 - 9) rounds are just after counts or a huge superity possible, but not by deductions, as I pointed here several times and you should be aware of this.
If a fights ends via knockdown, you don't even see such penalty on the score.

 

This was my score, i was scoring it live. I dont see how anyone can see Catteral doing enough to win. He coasted last 5 rounds, clinched and threw away a good opportunity. Inexperience

 

I had round 12 for caterall. Very close low activity round, but caterall's round. If you have any doubt the last huge punch right in taylor's jaw just when the bell rang removes this doubt.

No way taylor won that fight, men. It does not matter how much you defend that nonsense of decision.

Not to talk about the 114 card, which is just plain corruption. No way in hell taylor won 8 rounds.

 

I was just about to post about this myself, the point deduction against Taylor was total bs. I have seen much worse than that slightly overaggressive tap done after the bell in so many fights and no point was deducted. If I am one of the judges and I am obligated to include all deductions on my card you best believe I am compensating for that bs deduction somewhere else on my card. Since Catterall was running/hugging and in survival mode the last few rounds i'll score one of those as a 10-8 for Taylor instead of a 10-9.

 

115-110 or 114-111 Catterall are the only justified scores for this fight.

 

The fact that you posted this truly shows how close-minded you are. The entire world thinks it was a robbery yet you “can’t see how?”

That’s the most contrarian post I have ever seen.

 

The reason your scorecard is bad is because you gave every possible round where Taylor didn’t get outlcassed, to Taylor.

Giving him rounds 2, 3, 11, and 12 shows an insane bias. You saw him get dummied most of the fight and gave him pity rounds.

 

No not really close-minded. I just know what i was watching. I saw a contender fade in the second half of the fight, clinching and being forced on the back foot by the pressure fighter who happens to be the undisputed champion of that division. He didn’t make a case for himself in the latter part of the fight. He basically threw away a golden opportunity through inexperience, no ring generalship at all from rounds 7 onwards to be completely honest. Just a jab and a grab

 

Mate, come on. Taylor did not take rounds 2 and 3 and certainly didn't take the last 4. This is one of the worst decisions ever rendered. Taylor did not win the fight.

 

I don't see what's so controversial about giving Taylor rounds 2 and 3, they were razor close rounds and Taylor was the one coming forward applying pressure, judges often favour that. The sky commentators were giving Catterall too much credit for his work because the underdog was doing better than they expected.