Josh Koscheck vs Thiago Alves

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by The Phenom, Oct 23, 2008.


  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Yeah he is getting stopped. 2nd round probally
     
  2. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    Is Kosh from Fresno? I'm sorry but nobody from Fresno is going to be a champion!
     
  3. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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  4. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here is why I am picking Kos

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    While obviously Hughes and Kos are very different in some ways, they are similar in others.

    Thiago likely will not be 4lbs over, which means he was probably way way over on weigh in day before cutting, missing by 4 is missing by alot, and that weight seems to go up exponentially after weigh ins

    Kos, especially at this point, has better takedowns than Matt, frankly they are ALOT better.

    Hughes is the better sub grappler, both in subs and positioning, and better off his back.

    Kos will probably never be put on his back, and if he does, that would be a bad spot for him, but I think he would scramble up.

    Kos is a much much better striker than Hughes, Thiago will have to respect that, making the takedown easier.

    Kos, at this point, has better GnP than Hughes, enough to stop Thiago even.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I see Thiago landing a big knee on a shooting Kos, stunning him while Thiago goes in for the finish. I could very well be wrong though. The smart money may actually be on Kos, but I'll stick with my pick.
     
  6. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kos will win using his wrestling and will negate Alves Muay Thai. I think this is a UD victory for Kos.

    Dont see anyway Alves can win this in my opinion.
     
  7. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    However, Alves will probably come into this fight at 230lbs so it might not even happen.
     
  8. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've been wondering if we even need to refer to Hughes here; what about Fitch? Same camp as Kos right? Not as good a wrestler? Beat ALves pretty easily?

    Is this not an apt comparison for some reason?
     
  9. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    No he wouldn't have:lol:
     
  10. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alves has too much mass for that weight class. He must have to weight drain a ton.. That means his endurance is likely crap. Kos can take him to the and gas him there, he wont last more than two rounds.
     
  11. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's certainly a good point, I just couldn't find the video.
     
  12. Kairos

    Kairos Member Full Member

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    Koshcheck will win. Alves is overrated.
     
  13. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say that Kos will win and that Kos is underrated.

    I truly believe Josh Koscheck is not only an elite 170lber, but I think he beats anyone at this weight except GSP (and Penn if he moves up.)
     
  14. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    I agree, alot of people hated Kos when he first started because he was a boring lay n pray wrestler, but he has improved and evolved and has heavy hands as well, not a technical striker but his hands are a threat now.

    Alves in thoses videos looks really roided, he was way bigger then Hughes who is a decent size WW. But that is a huge weight cut and if the fight goes to the 3rd round that might affect Alves.
     
  15. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    You guys are making me reconsider picking Alves for the win tonight.:think