Josh Taylor finally moves to 147 (he isn't drained anymore)

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor vs Essuman announced

    Don't know why it took him so long
     
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  2. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey Just taking a break, folks Full Member

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    With the state that 147 is in rn, even a depleted Josh Taylor should still have enough left to score some decent wins at welter. Barrios and Norman would be good fights for him to pursue.
     
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  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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  4. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    Essuman is alright but nothing special , high work rate that's about it.. but Taylor is on a kind of a rebuild.. so i suppose its a start.. i dont think Josh has the fire anymore tho.. he's one of those Fighters that just fell off the cliff very quick .. which is a shame because at his peak he was elite and one of my favorite Fighters in the sport.. everytime Fighters leave the Mcguigans it never seems to end that well for them.. Josh should have moved up to 147 3/4 years ago... I don't anticipate he will make much waves in it now.. not active enough either he's only had five fights since 2020
     
  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Boots is waiting. I would like to see that scrap. Could be very i teresting if Josh gets back to form.
     
  6. JusABoxinFan

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    It took him so long because he wasn't drained. He was simply just making weight at that division.

    When a fighter and/or his camp realize that a certain weight is more stressful to make, they make the changes. They don't continue for years on end hindering their ability to perform at the highest level.

    Today, many fighters claim to be "drained" when they look less than spectacular and/or lose to an opponent. Think Jaron Boots Ennis and Errol "The Truth" Spence, Jr. Both of them boasted about being big for the division, stronger than their peers in the division, and has to option of fighting at a weight a couple classes up. Ennis look less than spectacular vs Karen in both fights for 2 different reasons. He immediately talked about his struggle making 147lbs. Yet, he chose not to move up immediately. Spence claimed to be drained and said in the ring after his lost to Crawford that he definitely wanted the rematch and hopefully it would be at 154lbs as that's an easier weight for him to make. Yet, he embraced the "Weight Bully" persona for years following MOVING DOWN from 154lbs, where he started his pro career. The week leading up to the fight he was promoted by his fans and media as being physically fit and ready to "snatch another eye", referring to him damaging both Kell Brook and Yordenis Ugas's eyes when they fought him. He was described as the "body snatcher" referring to his body punches that break down his opponents.

    Now given none of those names have anything to do with JT, but the point is, he decided to move up to welterweight when he felt he was ready to compete in that division, not because he was "draining" to make 140lbs. He was linked to Crawford via Bob Arum many times when Crawford was still with Top Rank. One of the reasons the fight didn't happen is because JT said out his own mouth that he still had work to do at 140lbs. That doesn't sound like a fighter who dreaded having to drain to make 140lbs.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You had to find a away to talk about Crawford and Ennis lol. Bait
     
  8. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    He literally said himself YEARS ago he was struggling with the weight.. long before he started losing.. have you seen josh Taylor in person? I have.. He's not a small lad.. he's 5'10 & probably walks around at about 180lbs.. he's mid 30s now too, its harder to make weight. I've no idea why he hung around , but it cost him.. & i know he hasn't looked the same these past few years.
     
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  9. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    About time, he may not be prime anymore but he’s not at a completely shot age. I’ve always had faith in him doing well because his style relies on his strength and power, two attributes that don’t flee with time. He probably didn’t want to move up before because 147 was so stacked for a good chunk of time.
     
  10. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    Josh Taylor had a very good run and beat some good fighters, but fell off a lot after leaving McGuigan.

    He should have enough for Essuman and moving up in weight makes sense. He probably should have done it a long time ago.
     
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  11. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Most of that 140 pounds was in his cheeky mouth.
     
  12. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    Please point to a single article discussing Josh Taylor moving up to welterweight that doesn't connect him to Crawford. Why do you get so emotional when Crawfords name is brought up? You act like he refused to sign your breast or something. Stop being so bitter......lol.
     
  13. JusABoxinFan

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    He said that, yet he kept going back to 140lbs when he could have easily just moved up and fought Terence Crawford who for a while, was struggling to get a formidable opponent in the ring at 147lbs and they both were signed to Top Rank at the time.

    And yes I have seen Josh Taylor in person a couple times. Both times was close to fight week though so he wasn't close to his walking around weight. I don't disagree with him being a bigger guy. Just saying if it was so much of a struggle, after becoming undisputed there was no reason for him to stay at 140lbs when a direct path to a bout vs Terence Crawford was right in front of him via Bob Arum.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moving up to welterweight?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/articles/cx2m7xmw340o.amp
     
  15. JusABoxinFan

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    I guess I should have specified. Don't know why I expected you to have the common sense to understand I was referring to articles discussing JT moving up to welterweight WHILE CRAWFORD WAS STILL A WELTERWEIGHT.

    I mean, it's not hard to comprehend my comments when you aren't trying to cherry pick specific quotes to start an argument like someone's broke babymomma.

    Why you chose to focus strictly on "none of those name had anything to do with JT" (which I was wrong about beecause one of those names is still a welterweight and JT would have to face him if he is trying to fight the top names in the division)...........Those who aren't acting like a bitter school girl can clearly see the entire post is referring to the past. Even the example I gave with Errol Spence Jr moving DOWN to welterweight from 154 should have been a dead give away..... But maybe you only focus when you see Crawford's name, skipping everything else written...... So let me help you out.

    Here's the last part of that comment.....your part that you quoted in
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    .......and the common sense factor that should have told you I wasn't referring to today in
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    , but the point is, he decided to move up to welterweight when he felt he was ready to compete in that division, not because he was "draining" to make 140lbs.
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    One of the reasons the fight didn't happen is because JT said out his own mouth that he still had work to do at 140lbs. That doesn't sound like a fighter who dreaded having to drain to make 140lbs."
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    Now is it possible you can work on that comprehension so that we don't have to continue this bytch fit you are throwing consistently over Crawford's name being a part of the conversation and try to add to the discussion?