Josh Taylor is a corpse at 140!

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  1. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Why has his team allowed him to stay at 140 for so long? The guy is completely shot to bits at that weight and I don’t think his fights with Catterall and Lopez should’ve ever even happened. 147 isn’t that deep right now, if he feels healthy and stays clear of Ennis, we might just have the old Josh back. It’s so frustrating to see how his handlers are just wasting an elite fighter’s time.
     
  2. peter_uk

    peter_uk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree; he has no business staying at 140, and it's frustrating to see he hasn't moved up to try and reinvigorate his career at 147. If Taylor struggles again vs Catterall I hope we don't hear any excuses regarding the weight, as it is Taylor's decision to continue to boil himself down to 140.
     
  3. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    He shouldn't have left McGuigan, the pair were good together and it's quite clear Josh's skills have degraded significantly since parting ways. Josh should have moved up to 147 right after he beat Ramirez and he should have faced Catterall instead of Khongsong way back when, that fight was a complete waste of his time. He's squandered his career since beating Ramirez and I have no clue why he's chosen to fight Jack at 140 rather than a catchweight or just 147 outright, he's still the a-side here and has the drawing power because Jack has no fanbase and is not a draw.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    So you don't want him at 140. You don't want him fighting Ennis at 147.

    What do you want?

    LMW?
     
  5. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Ennis would ko him, still some good fights at the weight though. I’d like to see him vs the other top welters like Stanionis, Santillan, or Randall. It just seems pointless to keep him at a weight he now looks awful at. I struggle to believe he’s done at 33 years old.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    So you want him at a higher weight, but not fighting the best fighters there?

    That doesn't make sense.

    The guy is a former undisputed champion. Be should be operating at the top level
     
  7. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed, Taylor's team are either incompetent or they don't have Taylor's best interests at heart. They should have pushed for the Catterall rematch to be at 147.

    Having to still cut those 7 extra lbs when he should have moved up years ago, is going to kill him (metaphorically and hopefully not literally)
     
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  8. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    He weighs 140 and 135 pounds of that amount is his big mouth.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I'm all for him earning his ranking at WW, not for him avoiding fighters though.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I don't believe in soft touches tbh. Why pay to watch a fight with a pre determined result?
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    That I completely agree with 100% tbh.

    I'm just saying as a fan, I just want to see competitive fights.

    But he needs people in his team looking out for his best interests.
     
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  12. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member banned Full Member

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    Prime 140 Taylor plays with Catterall and Lopez. Both those two are not that good.

    Lopez should have at least drew against way smaller one armed Loma. And don’t forget his razor thin win/ arguable loss against Nakatani. Many had him losing the Sandor Martin fight. Lopez just isn’t very good, just athletic and fast
     
  13. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He had a target on Crawford and signed with Top Rank to make the unification with Ramirez leading to Crawford. Crawford left TR which squandered his opportunity and he just seems like he has lost the fighting motivation. Agree he should have stayed with Shane Mcguigan, he did him dirty leaving so soon after he beat Prograis.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hard to say why he hasn't moved up. He said he struggled at the weight for the first fight with Catterall and was moving up instead of rematching him, only for him to refuse to move up for over a year, get stripped of most of the belts and then fight again 140 vs Lopez. So he might not be completely dead at the weight, he said he made weight fine of Lopez. He probably does struggle at the weight as he looks big at the weight and looks gaunt at the weigh ins but he can still clearly make weight. If he was truly struggling badly you'd think he'd have missed weight at some point in one of his more recent fights. It maybe that he was simply making an excuse for the Catterall performance.

    But lets say he really is dead at the weight, then you'd think he'd move up. But he hasn't and he clearly must have reasons for that. I suspect he knows he's at his limit at 140. His style relies on him being bigger than his opponents to physically dominate them up close and at 147 he simply won't have the size or strength advantage he has at 140. So maybe he and his team think 140 is still his best option, better to be slightly drained at 140 than stylistically at a dead end at 147.

    We won't really know unless he moves up, at 33 he's still has time to do that even if he loses to Catterall in the rematch.
     
  15. TheShellofKell

    TheShellofKell Nakatani Future P4P #1 Full Member

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    Taylor hit the bottle after the Prograis fight and became more dependent on alcohol after the Catterall fight. He's absolutely shot to bits now, Catterall wins this fight however he wants.