Josh Taylor versus Ramirez, Prograis II, Lopez.

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  1. Serge

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    For the reasons I outlined.
     
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  2. drenlou

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    But you have no real point though. Hes the undisputed champion. Why would he have to fight anyone else? If the opportunity to fight for the undisputed title at 140 came knocking i dont see why he wouldnt have earned it.
     
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  3. Serge

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    Yes I do. Had he put in all the hard work winning three down at 135 it would be different, but he didn't.
     
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  4. drenlou

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    Thats the beauty of being a young explosive highly touted fighter with a following.. What were you sating when Loma won a world title in his 3rd pro fight? Did he really work for that oppurtunity or was that oppurtunity more so because he was a 2x gold medal winner with an ATG amatuer record? Cmon man. Lopez beat your number one guy. Why wouldnt he be in line to unify two divisions, if the opportunity presented itself?
     
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  5. drenlou

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    You can give me a long post bro, truth is i probably wont even read it. But whatever you write im not going to agree. To say lopez has to work and defend his titles to contenders is more so a cop out because you know if Lopez waa to succeed at being undisputed in 2 weight classes simultaneously that its highly likely no one will ever come close to doing that again at least for a very long time .
     
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  6. Serge

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    Loma is the GOAT amateur and was the most sought after one in the world by every top promoter. He actually wanted to fight for a pro title in his pro debut but you need to have a top 10 ranking in order to do that so he agreed to sign with Top Rank if Arum could guarantee him a title shot in his second fight instead of the usual big signing on fee.

    He fought for one world title not four in one fell swoop after the champ has put in all the hard work. You think Lopez is willing to take a big pay cut for a shot at the winner for all the marbles at 140?
     
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  7. drenlou

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    Yeah i know that. And yeah i do, i think he has norhing to prove to loma or his fans he beat him already. If HISTORY comes knocking i think hes going to take that chance because to him from what i see rn, legacy means more to him than money. The money will be there but just think if he was to be undisputed in 2 weight classes at one time, what that does for his Legacy. Imagine the $$$$$$ after. He doesnt have to earn that opportunity.
     
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  8. Serge

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    Like I said, had he put in all the hard work down at 135 I wouldn't have a problem with it and I don't think it's unreasonable for him to fight a Zepeda or a Rougarou first before challenging the winner. But personally I want to see him give Loma a rematch first.
     
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  9. drenlou

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    This is Lopez' natural division, what work does he have to put? He just beat Lomachenko... And i know you do, but in the meantime if guys like zepeda are there why not? Sure
     
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  10. Serge

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    You want me to keep repeating myself?
     
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  11. drenlou

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    Do I? I mean loma to you can fight for a world title at fw in his 2nd pro fight against salido, but Lopez can beat your Number 1 p4p guy in 16 fights and has to work and earn a fight against the taylor vs ramirez winner? No absolutely not.
     
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  12. drenlou

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    Point is Lopez has so much momentum rn he can fight whoever he wantsin any weight class and it would be a big fight..lol
     
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  13. Serge

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    Jesus wept. Loma didn't fight for three world titles in one fell swoop after the champ had put in all the hard work and then for all four in one fell swoop in the next division after the champ in that one had put in all the hard work. :facepalm:
     
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  14. drenlou

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    It doesnt matter. Have you ever heard of the saying kill 2 birds with one stone? In this case 3 birds. Cmon man.. He earned everything hes going to get by beating your p4p number 1 guy.
     
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  15. Serge

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    OK, if you just want to be argumentative for the sake of it we'll leave it at that
     
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