Um and a 115-112 you forgot to mention that one with Paulie getting dropped in the 2nd and 5th. My point being it was a competitive fight. People acting like Taylor gets smashed are high. He's unbeaten at this point after clearing a division out. A division that Crawford had cleared out yet he's the second coming of Christ according to some people on here. I like Cotto but he was drained at 140 which is why he struggled in some of his later fights at that weight.
Christ some of the comments in this are mental. Never seen anyone who's undisputed in their division be described as doing nothing. I am the biggest Cotto mark. Loved him his whole career, but his 140 resume isn't amazing- I'd fancy Taylor to beat all of them handily. Would Cotto beat him at 147 and above- very likely yes, Cotto at those weights was a completely different animal, but at 140 a greener and chinnier Cotto would have a hard time with Taylor. Was always a shame we had three excellent fights 140s at the same time in 2005 in Cotto, Mayweather and Hatton; none of them came off. Side note: Mayweather spanks Taylor and Hatton loses to him.
Fully agree. There using examples to support there case that were fought at heavier weights. Although the Op doesn't specify we can only go of the weights they have both fought at. What Cotto does at 154 or 160 is irrelivant to this discussion. We can't judge Josh at the heavier weight as I mentioned in an earlier post it's unkown at this point. I just find it funny he gets dismissed when Crawford gets smoke blown up his arse for clearing the exact same division.
His best victory is a freaking majority decision AT HOME vs prograis!!! for god's sake!! We all know what does it mean if the fight had been fought in prograis's home. Prograis, whose best fights are terry flanagan and indongo!!! are you kidding me?? And everybody going nuts for such a shitty CV. do belts make fighters now? Not my fault if that division is utter trash!! Do I have to rate a guy whose best fight is this one as high as cotto? No, thank you. In the future? in the future only god knows... but now, no.
the difference is that cotto's career is over, and that we know what he had. Taylor's career is not over and he hasnt proved ****. So until he proves that he has what cotto had, I wont rate him not even close to cotto. I didnt rate this shitty 140 division when crawford spanked them all, being crawford a 1 in a generation fighter, I wont rate this shitty 140 division for taylor, who is not half the fighter crawford is. 140 is pure trash.
I see you missed the questions I posed so I'll help you out. Josh has had 18 fights and cleared a division whilst Cotto at the same stage had just fought Ceballos and Maussa.... Now I'm not really familiar with either of those names to be honest but the point being Cotto hadn't fought anyone at the same point of his career. Cotto would beat Pinto on his 21st fight for the WBO strap. The names you quoted in a previous post were all fights after the 30 fight mark. So making out Josh hasn't fought anyone despite clearing a division and the fact at the same point Cotto had done nothing and had not fought anyone or even won a major strap yet makes your assertion very weak.
maliniagi, demarcus corley and gianluca branco are **** oposition, the same level of **** oposition that taylor has fought, but there is a difference, cotto didnt need and hommie majority decision to win to any of them. Plus anyone doubting if cotto can beat prograis or postol is nothing but a fool. damn, you are relou, man. whatever, you like taylor. good for you! I dont rate him. Nothing else to argue.
All those fights happened are well after the 20 fight mark. I know you don't want to accept reality. I'm a Cotto fan and at the moment I would have to favour him at the higher weights. My point being Josh has achieved a lot more than Cotto at the same point of the career. I'm not a Josh fanboy either Ive only seen 3-4 of his fights. It's disingenuous to say someone is a bum after 18 fights and clearing a division out. It's not that hard to understand.
Yes Taylor accomplished more at the 140 pound division, but that still doesnt mean that he would have beat Cotto at 140 either. This is a hypothetical matchup, nobody is wrong, so just accept that others are not going to agree with you and drop it.