Joshua’s consistent ducking of Wilder and the Wilder-Whyte WBC saga explained

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wasn’t it you who said that that feather fisted CW would easily have beaten Mike Tyson?
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The same morbidly obese middleweight Wilder ducked? Or the feather fisted cruiser who stopped Dubois with a jab?

    Guess AJ could fight a sparring partner for his next fight instead of an actual title fight though.
     
  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "The same morbidly obese middleweight Wilder ducked?"

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  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Wilder cant be 2 in his era without win over Joshua or Usyk."

    He can if Fury dominates Usyk. 80% favour Wilder over Joshua right now, it's on Joshua to stop ducking and prove he's above the level he showed against Usyk, Franklin and Helenius.

    "done much less than Joshua"

    He's done much less losing to morbidly obese middleweights and featherfisted cruisers, I agree.

    "Ortiz?"

    Even Whyte stated that Hearn signed Ortiz to keep him away from Joshua:

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    "Wilder who admit not take better fight"

    Wilder admitted to not taking a worse fight (Andy Ruiz + Usyk x2 victim) and instead fought a trilogy with the No.1. Your statement doesn't make any sense.
     
  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnny Nelson claims that Joshua fighting Wilder is "bad business" as Joshua's not in a position where he has a good chance of winning, so Joshua needs more knockovers:

    https://boxing-social.com/news/johnny-nelson-on-joshua-wilder-collapse/
     
  6. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Dude stop it... Its sounds like a joke. IF FURY WIN
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    We talk about Wilder wins not Fury. Its funny how Beyonce Wilder fans try make him bigger because of Tyson Fury class and winning.
    It dont work like that.
    You count his winning not Fury ones as his sucses...
    If Fury beat Usyk its show... Only that Fury is better than Usyk. Nothing more.

    Your logic is funny btw. Whyte (big enemy of Joshua btw) said Ortiz was signed for protect Joshua. And You belive it and act like this is Fact. No. Fact is that Ortiz had chance to fight with Joshua for best money in his career and he ducked that fight.
    Its funny that You still talking like Anthony isbthe one who ducked them even when Wilder himself said he quit better fight with Joshua to go other way
     
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  7. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    How much did PBC pay you to post this shite?
     
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  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "It dont work like that."

    If Wilder sparks Joshua in 1 round, it makes Fury look better. And if Fury dominates Usyk, it makes Wilder look better. Like it or not, right or wrong, that's how it works and has always worked.

    Joshua ducked 2017 Ortiz, 2018/2019 Wilder and 2018/2019/2022+ Fury: three of the five biggest threats of his reign. While Wilder fights Ortiz twice and Fury three times. The constant factor ducking here is Joshua; the same guy who got obliterated and quit against obese middleweight Ruiz and got schooled x2 by featherfisted cruiser Usyk.
     
  9. Redbeard7

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    30 pieces of silver.
     
  10. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    No You troll xD
    If Wilder sparks out Joshua it make him looks better not Fury. Same with Fury vs Usyk. It only will be big for Tyson because Wilder still not stand in the ring with Ukrainie Man who probably beat him in 9 of 10 fights all by 12 rounds UD...

    Its easy to say that "little cruser" schooled Joshua but this little cruser is best cruser in history and right now one of the best all time...
    Wilder will be look like total bum in ring with him.

    And again. Joshua dont ducked Wilder. They have him many proposition and best proposition ever(?) and he still said no. Wilder admit it himself. You are exerting yourself unnecessarily because u cant proof nothing.

    He dont duck Fury too. He want fight with him but Fury said he want 60 percent. He said it when he was before comeback. After that he choose easier fight with Wilder who was under Joshua in all aspects (less money, worse position, less belts).
    Before Usyk fight they even want sign contract but Fury team is bunch of idiots and they dont understand that Fury must fight third time with Wilder.

    He dont duck Ortiz too. He got his chance for 6-7 millions and he said "no". Before that he was absolultly nobody. Beat nobody and quit Ustinov fight.

    And last thing. Its better to lose to Ruiz but take all great fight than avoid mandatory with good opponents for almost 5 years and choose opponent like Arreola or for God sake Andrzej Wawrzyk xD
     
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  11. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No if anything it has been Wilder who never actually wants to fight the man at any time & the only reason he went after Fury was because he & his team thought he was ripe for the picking & instead got the shock of their lives.

    AJ like him or not has always seemed to welcome any fight or challenge he just doesn't care, he seems to always be ready.
     
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  12. BlackDog

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    It takes a lot of bad will and even more imagination to conclude that Joshua was avoiding anyone...
    Joshua took massive risk almost all time from his 15 fights. From Whyte to reematch with Usyk. Dude give us best what he can.

    For end this nonsense thread I add only that when Joshua announced his fight with Klitschko Wilder want fight Wawrzyk...

    And this should end it for good.
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/1...admission_in_a_Tweet_t-m-70_1604482249465.jpg
     
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  13. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True B-Dog plus you mentioned what i left out about him also successfully avoiding Whyte for several years especially when he was looking great, timing really does matter regardless.
     
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  14. box33

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    Kiwi your av looks like one of those Dragonball Androids with the earrings hahaha
     
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  15. box33

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    Big bummer for Wilder choosing in his words Black Loyalty over the 3 Fight DAZN Deal, man he lost a lot of money in the end by sticking with Al Haymon especially after those loses to Fury & then he ended up parting ways with the PBC label in the end anyways, whoa.