Joshua’s consistent ducking of Wilder and the Wilder-Whyte WBC saga explained

Funny Man!
Nobody must belive Eddie Hearn in that case. If u read boxing articles and You understand reality u will alone know that.
Go Google and check how long Whyte was number 1 in WBC and when he get chance...
Wilder can earn best money and fulfill responsibilities as champion...
But he dont. He ducked Whyte for 3 years?

Wilder never fought and win with someone Wład Klitschko class.
Ortiz done much less than Whyte too.

Joshua fight with 2 best punchers in era other than Wilder. Klitschko is number 2 here and Povetkin after Haye probably can be placed in top 5.
U are crazy ifbu think he afraid of punchers.

Wilder avoid Povetkin for almost 2 years and never fight him with WBC help. He avoid Whyte too.
Never before want fight Klitschko, Joshua.

He even must check Ortiz with his ass licker friend Scott first before give him chance...

 

"Nobody must belive Eddie Hearn in that case."

Correct.

"U are crazy ifbu think he afraid of punchers."

Joshua admitted it himself, he wanted nothing to do with Wilder's GOAT right hand:

"I always think about that one punch, no one can beat me skill-for-skill, I don’t think. But it’s that one punch: I’d hate for that to be the reason why I lose. One punch. And that’s what they’re all looking at. Every fight is scary. You don’t want to lose everything you’ve got – especially this one – this was a banana-skin fight because of what’s to come. As with the Parker fight, I didn’t want to take any risks." - Anthony Joshua, 2018

 

You are idiot dude. Sorry but it just true.

U think Whyte saying Ortiz was signed for safe Joshua is better argument that official offer decline by Luis.

You think one interview of Joshua is more important than 100 millions offer from DAZN and tweet from Wilder himself saying he choose other fight.

You think Joshua fighting Povetkin, Whyte and Klitschko is afraid of punchers but not Wilder who beat only too hard punching dude and one of them have leg disable...

But i'm sorry. You are not idiot probably. You just trolling.

In Poland we have ppl like You too. Very annoying...

One more stupid post in other topic and I use option "ignore" first time...

 

Ortiz got a Wilder rematch inside 6 months of Joshua-Ruiz rather than take a short notice fight, there was no duck. Whereas Hearn/Joshua were willing to pull out all the stops in court to avoid 2017 Ortiz.

"100 millions offer from DAZN"

Did the conditions include a one-way rematch clause and unilateral home advantage for Joshua like the Parker and Martin contracts did? Wilder took the Fury fight to strengthen his position at the negotiating table with Joshua, whose team were happy to try to age everyone else out and let Fury and Wilder beat each other up while they sat pretty. Then Joshua got exposed by Andy Ruiz and it all blew up.

"You think Joshua fighting Povetkin, Whyte and Klitschko is afraid of punchers"

Since Wlad, Joshua hasn't been fighting punchers. Povetkin was in the midst of a six fight streak where he only dropped/stopped Price, so even he's a dubious example. You could include Helenius if you like but it doesn't strengthen your argument because Wilder sparked him in one round 10 months prior to Joshua getting busted up by him over seven.

 

Ach. Soo if Ortiz say "no" and go other way its not duck. When Wilder go other way its not duck. Only when Joshua got other plan its for sure duck xD

Dont know. I only know it was best money option for Wilder ever. He even dont earn soo many in 3 fights with Fury...
He can even lost in 1 second of round 1 and he still have reematch... It was gold.
Dont care what his plans was because its only Your interpretation. He choose "less danger" fight first and that's duck I guess. He even admit it what You even dont talk about trying to avoid MOST VALUE argument.

Dude if You think Povetkin is not puncher You are just stupid.
Same Povetkin was nightmare of Wilder for 2 years xD
Whyte is also puncher.
Klitschko is ultra puncher.

Yes. Joshua fight many puncher. Wilder only Ortiz and disable Stiverne.
He choose Fury fight not Joshua because they think he cant heart him (he even cant knocked out Planeta lol)

 

I meant invincible in terms of overcoming any hurdle, not invincible in terms of not getting hurt or knocked out.

 

I've got nothing but respect for these guys, I've got no interest in dragging them down.

 

"Only when Joshua got other plan its for sure duck xD"

Joshua avoided three of the five biggest threats of his reign (Ortiz, Wilder, Fury) and still managed to lose three times, including to a fringe contender 25/1 underdog. He's scared of Wilder by his own admission.

"Dont know. I only know it was best money option for Wilder ever."

Exactly, you don't know. However, we do know that titlists Parker and Martin were offered 30-70 splits, one-way rematch clauses and unilateral home advantage for Joshua.

"Same Povetkin was nightmare of Wilder for 2 years"

Team Wilder ducked 2015/2016 Povetkin, Joshua ducked 2017 Ortiz. But Joshua wasn't going to fight 36/37 year old Povetkin either.

Povetkin was in the midst of a six fight streak where he only dropped/stopped Price. He didn't drop or stop Rudenko, Hammer, Joshua, Hughie or Hunter.

Whyte was back in 2015, post-Wlad Joshua hasn't been fighting big punchers. And Whyte's KO record is poor: Fury, Joshua, Chisora 1, Parker, Rivas, Povetkin 1, Franklin, Helenius, Wach, Allen. His only impressive KO win was Chisora 2 and that was post-Joshua, prior to that he'd only stopped journeymen.

"Yes. Joshua fight many puncher."

If Joshua had fought Wilder's opponents, he'd probably have 3-4 KO defeats.

"Planeta"

Glorified sparring session to get rounds in and dupe the gullible (it clearly worked on you!)

 

If Joshua not fighting Ortiz, Wilder and Fury constitutes ducking some of his most dangerous challengers than wouldn't the same be true in Fury not fighting Bakole, Hrgovic, Zhang. In addition to Joshua and a prime Usyk. Who aside from arguably Wilder has he faced who is better than these 3 since his comeback in 2018?

Moreover by the time Joshua reached his prime Ortiz was seemingly past it and starting to decline. So the timelines don't match well.

 

Is that the same year 2017 when Joshua was facing Wlad whilst Ortiz was “injured” before Ortiz then went on to fail a drugs test? Such a blatant duck by Joshua by obviously forcing Ortiz to fail a drugs test but then I wouldn’t expect anything other than this kind of moronic statement and conjecture from a jobless alt bum such as yourself.

You constantly bring up Joshua “ducking” Ortiz in practically every thread and yet the only one out of the two who has turned down a (at the time career high payday) was Ortiz.
Every thread you say this in I’m forced to leave the same link to the same article of Ortiz manager himself saying they turned down the Joshua fight which you always conveniently ignore.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/box...er-Anthony-Joshua-Eddie-Hearn-Jay-Jimenez/amp



It gets boring, really boring.

 

This time it just comes down to money, there holding out for Saudi money which isn't going to come, they could make this fight tomorrow and hold it in the UK or America for decent coin but not the 10s of millions they want.

 

Deontay Wilder has said he wants to set up a face-to-face meeting with Anthony Joshua to finally make the fight:

“I just don't know what's up with Joshua bro. Maybe I'm gonna have to go to England and sit down with him on some real man s***… I don't want him to feel like I have anything against him, but I know he's afraid of me… Joshua - me and you is the biggest fight in the world bro, what are you doing? I really wanna talk to that dude.”

 

I want him to feel that i have nothing against him But i know he's afraid of me hahaha Wilder is delusionally funny

 

Always a good day when I find another Neet alt's been banned.

 

Funny, yes, but I think he is being honest.