Joshua and Ortiz vs Ruiz comparison

ad4m88 · Sep 5, 2022

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"Larry hadn't been in a meaningful fight"

And Ortiz had been virtually 25 months inactive pre-Martin, where he was dropped twice. His last really good performance before that was nearly 4 years prior. Ortiz has obviously been a fighter in decline for a long time now but he was a big underdog and still went 12 with Ruiz at 43, losing a controversial decision.

"mcall was coming of a ko win over Lewis so how was he fringe contender"

McCall was seen as a journeyman at the time, let alone a fringe contender. He was a 5-1 underdog against Lewis, who wasn't even regarded as a proven commodity at that point. McCall had a 24-5 record with some disputed decisions thrown in. He was a fringe contender. But fringe contenders do occasionally become champions; their chances are slim/fringe but they are still "contenders".

Wear and tear is a factor and 43 year old Ortiz had plenty of it with 400 fights and getting brutally knocked out by Wilder twice in the previous 4.5 years. Some fighters can absorb tremendous punishment and still hold a good shot in their mid 40's but the vast majority cannot.

"And when did you become a psychologist to know Martin came in too lose"

He clearly allowed himself to be counted out when he wasn't badly hurt and could have beaten it, a la Scott vs Chisora or Molina in any number of fights.

Anyway, you're a dogmatist and I'm done with you.
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We not talking about Ortiz v Martin tho are we we talking about Ortiz Vs Ruiz so regardless if he was out for 6 years prior doesn't matter

400 fights dude amateur isn't anywhere near the same as professional you don't GGG or usyk get dropped by jabs do you ? Just admit Ortiz was always a overhype Cuban glass chin grandad wilder was his first.big puncher and he couldn't take it now he fighting better opponents cos he smashed all the tins he's struggling

Lewis wasn't a commodity ? He'd beaten Ruddock, tucker and Bruno before the mcall fight seriously do you know boxing

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