Joshua Clottey Interview In Ghana On Pacquiao And The Fight.

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  1. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First of all, whether the weight requirement affected Cotto or not, he is not going to say it, out of being a gracious loser. So that matters little.


    Second, whether or not Pac was consdered "smaller" is not the question. He challenged Cotto for his WW belt, and I don't think it was particularly fair that he made him come down to 145 to do it.
     
  2. Watson2005

    Watson2005 Active Member Full Member

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    Pac's too good for clottey. Hes too fast and comes in at mad angles. He's southpaw stance and great variation of shots is gonna **** clotteys **** up.
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto will say that before each fight:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Good grief. That sounds ridiculous.. "'Cause Cotto said so"

    What is he supposed to say before his biggest payday in front of his largest audience? "I have a hard enough time making 147, but to have to spend my time concetrating on an extra couple of pounds right after getting beat the **** up against that Ashy African Motha****a is a lot to ask. I think I was in a little better shpae for the Clottey fight than now":rofl:rofl:rofl

    Man, GTFOH!
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why wouldn't he? After the fighte especially? DLH made statments to lead one to believe that the reason why he "THOUGHT" he lost to Manny was b/c was weight drained although he never said the words.....he definitley insinuated that. Cotto is a modest fighter and humble but he's also honest....if he thought the weight was a problem he would has said it, but he completely went the opposite direction and said he was feeling great for the fight with Manny.

    On your second note.....PAC didn't challenge Cotto. The fight with Cotto was arleady in the mind of Arum, Cotto and Manny as a potential fight. After the josh fight Manny said to make it happen and Cotto said before the Josh fight he'd be willing to fight Manny.

    And lastly Cotto is a big boy, a world champion and has his own mind. Cotto not only agreed to the 145 weight but proposed that as a wieght he'd have NO problems facing Manny...a Jr WW in a fight for the WW title.
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It only sounds ridiculous b/c it doesn't meet your agenda....which is fine, but Cotto looked incredible for his fight with Manny and so many of you guys were stating PAC was in trouble based purely off of the weigh in pics or vid. Why question Cotto's own words as a honest, humble and great champion?

    AND IF..... Cotto is having a hard time making 147 then that means he's not a legit WW...he's a Super WW who needs to fight at 154...NOT 147. If he's figting at 147 it's b/c he's trying to take advantage of smaller guys at the weight like they accuse PW of doing.

    And if that is the case that means PAC was facing a Super WW, not a WW. Cotto had troubles at JR WW and he moved up to WW..if he's struggling at WW he should move up to Super WW.

    So I should get the **** out b/c you don't like to hear logic.....:roll: Ok buddy.....keep living in your own world while reality contiues to happen all around you.:good
     
  6. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at Cotto's comments about margarito. Even then, he still says Margarito was the better fighter that night. As much as I love to hate the guy, he is a realy gracious loser.

    Cotto is a big boy, but he defers to Bob Arum. You might be a little niave if you think he wasn't forced into fighting at that weight if he wanted to enjoy the biggest payday of his career. Him being an Arum fighter makes it much easier for pre-negotiations to force him onto a weight before the press got a hold of it.
     
  7. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You said all that and missed the point entirely.

    Cotto isn't going to admit how the weight affected him. PEriod. And he is not going to say anything except "I'm in the best shape of my life." Winky Wright said the same thing before the PW fight, but everyone here still says he was shot to **** and ring-rusted...
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Why do people ask for anything in negotiations?

    Whether it made 'any difference' isn't the issue, because that's not what you claimed. You claimed that someone could be 'weight-drained' at one weight and 'full-strength' a mere pound heavier, which is clearly a ridiculous contention.
     
  9. Primenal

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    OMG...Get over it man. Apparently you know what Cotto's is going through better than Cotto knows what he went through! What a joke!
    He weighed 146 vs Clottey. He weighed 145 vs Pac! 1 pound doesn't make much a difference.
    The reason Pac made him come down was for 3 reasons:
    1) Pac had the power, and was the main draw. He could do as he pleased (much like DLH made him come up in weight because he was the main draw, and much like Mayweather made JMM move up because he was the main draw)
    2) Pac is SMALLER! Whenever he steps on the scales at 145...He doesn't go up much after, THat's the weight he walks around at. Cotto could get on the scale, and it says 145, and the next day he weighs 155! Pac would have beaten him regardless, but what's wrong with meeting somewhere in the middle?
    3) Cotto accepted the damn fight! He's a man, took the fight, and lost.

    Cotto may be gracious, but he's got his own mouth, and he suffered the loss...Not you. Quit speaking for people who already spoke for themselves. He's a grown ass man, and knows how to talk
     
  10. charlievint

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    Cotto has since then came back and had some pretty harsh things to say about Marg....insinuating that he is completely disgusted by Marg and taht he'd never fight him again..

    Vs....comments about PAC after the fight and after the accusations about PEDs...Cotto said PAC is the best fighter he's ever faced and still said the weight was a NON issue.

    Niave? Not at all. Cotto "KNEW" he could beat PAC and that he WOULD beat him and the weight he suggested was the weight in which the fight was made. Cotto wasn't forced to fight Manny......he could have turned that fight down and he was about to when talks of weight under what he suggested were flying around.

    No one forced Miguel to be a boxer....no one forced miguel to fight Marg...No one forced him to fight Manny.
     
  11. Bee KeepZ

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    Test the water.

    Come on man, the m'fer made 138 in his previous fight without having to cut and hasn't gone up over 150 on fight night yet.

    Clottey is a tougher fight than Cotto.
     
  12. charlievint

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    Cotto wouldn't take a fight if he was going to be at a disadvantage bro....Cotto is a professional, he knows his body and how to condition it to get the most out of his natrual abilities.

    HIS OWN CONDITIONING Coach said that 145 was going to be FINE..that he'd be able to get Cotto down 1 POUND for the fight with Manny without any probelms...and he did.

    Wink saying that at 36 and Cotto saying that at 28 is very different. Cotto is in his PRIME...wink is NOT. Cotto is still very relevant in the top teirs of the sport and Wink is dwindiling. Wink saying what needs to be said to stay in the public spot light vs Cotto being in the spot light and speaking honestly is completely different.
     
  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    2 lies.

    Go on...
     
  14. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Well said.
     
  15. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clottey is a beast of a welter. Should give Pac a decent challenge.