I keep hearing people talking about stamina issues, but I have yet to see any. Where did this ****ing myth come from? The last I seen of joshua he went full 12 moving around like it was the 1st. Granted the oppenent wasnt stellar, but I really want to know an example of where clottey tired out or showed any type of 'stmaina issue'.
Clottey couldn't even stop a former lightweight (R.I.P) Diego Corrales while being a MUCH stronger man. He is not stopping, nevermind KO'ing Cotto.
and who the **** is to say that corrales wasnt stronger by making that extra weight? Yeah eat that. Oh and btw just to drive that point I just typed right in your ****in face - clottey broke his jaw. Takes power to break bones dog.
Clottey is a very big welterweight. A very big welterweight that is supposed to have such good power should be able to KO a big lightweight. Regardless of how much stronger Corrales was by extra weight. Yeah, broke his jaw after landing nearly three million flush punches. Can you imagine what someone like Cotto would've done to poor Corrales? His stoppage of Cruz on the weekend was his first since 2004. And even then people thought it was a bit pre-mature.
Well cotto has no defense, and if shane had him running scared for his life, and if torres and corley had him on ***** street ready to go, then yes clottey will KO him. Wow its funny that all the names i just mentioned there werent even career welterweights, yet a true welter wont KO him according to your wisdom.
Well, people said that "If Torres and Corley can hurt Cotto, Mosley will flatten him." Didn't happen. Despite people thinking Cotto was ready to get knocked out, he really wasn't that hurt against Mosley even though he got hit with big shots. Mosley hits harder than Clottey does. Judah and Quintana do too.
I'm a huge SSM fan, but at this stage, at 147, his power is in the same league as Clottey, who admittedly does not have single punch pop but is pretty strong by WW standards. Of all of those guys, Judah probably has the hardest one-punch power and Cotto took that.
Six more days until, hopefully, some more balanced discussion. Clottey's been both talked up and talked down ad nauseum on this board. Soto Karass is woefully underdocumented. A little side-by-side analytical contrast should freshen things up a bit.
Fair enough. Clottey is indeed strong as an ox, just for all that muscle and size for a WW, doesn't have the biggest firepower. I agree about Judah's one punch power
Oh hey what's up Assassin. All day I've been like "who is this Samurai guy and why does his av look so familiar?"
He slowed significantly in the middle rounds of the Corrales fight (though he did come back strong in the last 2 - Corrales gassed even more than he did though), he gassed out in the Margo fight (yes, he injured his hand, but it's not like he was throwing with the other hand), and he slowed down immensely in the Gutierrez fight. He did look better against Alvarez, but his workrate didn't have to be high for that fight because Alvarez doesn't throw that many punches himself.
Both guys' fights in the past week were frustrating for different reasons. A quick, unemphatic stoppage for Clottey and a questionably wide win (or even a questionable win period) in an uncharacteristically poor performance for Soto Karass. These results do little to help discern what their respective "bests" look like side by side.